(e) Mr O'Brien's role as a director of Leslie Manor involves amongst other things the following:
"i. supervising and liaising with employees, contractors and lessees in relation to soil fertility, pasture growth, Farm productivity and strategy;
ii. managing Leslie Manor's relationships with its banks and financiers;
iii. managing the production and sale of fodder grown on the Farm;
iv. supervising the management of approximately 600 head of non-milking cows which are owned by Leslie Manor (including the sale of those cows from time to time);
v. supervising and managing capital improvements to the Farm;
vi. managing the Farm's insurance arrangements;
vii. dealing with the local council, including in relation to council rates.
viii. contracting certain consultants."
57 One of the difficulties with the above assertions as to Mr O'Brien's role as the sole director of Leslie Manor concerns the extent to which any of the eight matters listed are still relevant given that the operation of the two dairy farms is now the subject of a long term lease so that one assumes that the day-to-day operation of the dairy activities of the Farm is now the responsibility of the lessees. However, I am prepared to accept that, as lessor, Mr O'Brien as the sole director of Leslie Manor, is required from time to time to liaise with the lessees in relation to such matters as farm productivity and strategy given that the rental payable by the lessees to Leslie Manor is, apparently, directly related to the quantity of milk they produce.
58 However, I would not be prepared to accept, without further evidence, that items (ii), (v), (vi), (vii) and (viii) require Mr O'Brien's regular attention. Thus, for instance, there is no evidence that Leslie Manor proposes to make capital improvements to the Farm between now and the time that Mr O'Brien's appeal is determined, a matter to which I shall return. Furthermore, the evidence with respect to items (iii) and (iv) is lacking in detail in relation to the extent of supervision or management which is required for each of the matters referred to in those items.
59 Mr Milner's evidence is that fodder is grown on the supporting farm and, no doubt, from time to time is harvested and sold. But again there is nothing in the evidence to suggest that this requires some weekly intervention on the part of Mr O'Brien. The same comment applies to item (vi). There is no suggestion in Mr Milner's affidavit that Mr O'Brien is the manager of the Farm or for that matter, the manager of the activities carried out upon the supporting properties. Although Mr Milner states that over the past five years Mr O'Brien has spent an average of two days per week working as a director of Leslie Manor in relation to the business of the Farm, it is not suggested that he is required to spend these two days on the Farm in Victoria as distinct from dealing with such matters that might arise in Sydney. In other words, the evidence does not allow me to find that Mr O'Brien has a hands-on role in the Farm's operations.
60 In fact, I would infer as a matter of commonsense and in the absence of evidence to the contrary, that Leslie Manor employs an experienced farm manager to carry out the day-to-day activities relating to managing the production and sale of fodder grown on the Farm and supervising the management of the non-milking cows including their sale from time to time. At least I am not prepared to infer that there is no such manager in the absence of evidence to that effect.
61 Mr Milner further deposes that he has been informed by Mr O'Brien that no member of his family, or any friend or business associate, is prepared to accept an appointment as director of Leslie Manor. Nor is Mr O'Brien currently aware of anyone who is capable of managing Leslie Manor's affairs who is prepared to accept an appointment as a director of that company. However, I note that Mr O'Brien is not paid a director's fee and thus carries out his activities as a director at no cost to the Trust. The evidence does not allow me to find, based on reasonably extensive enquiries, that there is no one with the necessary business acumen in the agricultural field capable of or willing to fill in for Mr O'Brien until his appeal is determined.
62 Mr Milner also deposes that Mr O'Brien has informed him that owing to the nature of the Farm's operations, it is unlikely that anyone will accept an appointment as a director of Leslie Manor and assume Mr O'Brien's responsibilities in respect of the Farm's operations "on terms which Leslie Manor could reasonably meet". If the latter is intended to convey that it is unlikely that anyone is prepared to assume Mr O'Brien's responsibilities at little or no fee, then I am not impressed. If the operation of the Farm, notwithstanding that the dairy activities are now leased, is as complex as is asserted, it must understandably follow that a person experienced in operating a farm would not be prepared to undertake Mr O'Brien's responsibilities without proper recompense.
63 But given that Mr O'Brien can manage the affairs of Leslie Manor by working only two days per week, the cost of engaging a new director would not appear to be great and, in any event, this would be at the expense of the Trust, not Mr O'Brien. The significance of that cost is unknown as there is no evidence as to the revenue or profits of the Trust. The only information provided by Mr Milner is that the operating expenses of the Farm for the last financial year were approximately $5 million. For reasons unexplained, there is no reference to the turnover of the Farm which might give some indication as to the extent of its current profitability. The only information that is provided is that Mr O'Brien has informed Mr Milner that there are business risks associated with the Farm's operations and that the milk price is changeable so that the Farm's ongoing profitability is "often unpredictable". These assertions are so vague and lacking in particularity as to be of little or no assistance.
64 As was submitted on behalf of ASIC, there is a deal of coyness with respect to the assertions contained in Mr Milner's affidavit which I understand to mean that the affidavit is long on generalities and short on detail. If that is what was intended to be conveyed by the submission, I agree with it. Thus Mr Milner's assertion at paragraph 24 of his affidavit that it is unlikely that anyone would be prepared to assume Mr O'Brien's responsibilities in respect of the Farm's operations "on terms which Leslie Manor could reasonably meet", really tells me nothing without some evidentiary material to support it.
65 In my view the evidence to which Mr Milner deposes on information provided by Mr O'Brien is so vague and general and so lacking in critical detail that I am unable to be satisfied that the continued disqualification of Mr O'Brien as a director of Leslie Manor pending the determination of his appeal would cause the Farm, and, therefore, the Trust to be irretrievably damaged in some unspecified manner. Certainly, the evidence of Mr Milner does not support any assertion that Mr O'Brien would sustain any personal loss or damage. This no doubt explains the absence of any submission to the contrary.
66 Mr Milner also deposes that he had been informed by Mr O'Brien that if the latter was precluded from managing Leslie Manor, the company would need to be replaced as trustee of the Trust, which would in turn require a number of agreements to which Leslie Manor is a party to be varied and/or renegotiated as well as the legal title to various parcels of land to be transferred to the new trustee. Mr Milner also deposes that he has been informed by Mr O'Brien that none of the parties to the agreements that would need to be varied and/or renegotiated have indicated whether they would consent thereto. On the other hand, there is no evidence that they have been requested to so consent and have refused.
67 In any event I have difficulty in accepting this evidence at face value given that Leslie Manor is, as far as the evidence indicates, a bare trustee. There is no suggestion that Mr O'Brien has given any personal guarantees, but even if he has, there appears to be no reason why, even if a new trustee needed to be appointed, those guarantees could not remain in place if they be considered essential by the parties to whom they have been provided. Nor is it self-evident that, apart from substituting one trustee for another, there would need to be some substantive variation and/or renegotiation of the agreements in question. There is no evidence as to why there would be any such need, nor is there evidence as to the particular agreements or the particular terms of those agreements which the appointment of a new trustee of the Trust would, as a matter of necessity, require to be varied or renegotiated.
68 Furthermore, it is proposed that the hearing of the appeals from the orders of the primary judge will be heard early next year. There is no reason to believe that a judgment will not be forthcoming within, at the most, two to three months of the conclusion of that hearing. The success or otherwise of Mr O'Brien's appeal should, therefore, be known within eight or nine months. On the basis of Mr Milner's evidence I am not satisfied that temporary arrangements could not be put in place for that period.
69 Apart from the two public companies, the only other corporation dealt with specifically by Mr Milner in his affidavit is Hydration. According to the information obtained from Mr O'Brien, he is the sole director of that company which manufactures and sells oral rehydration projects under the brand name "Hydralyte". In the 2008/09 financial year, Hydration generated over $4.5 million in sales revenue. Mr O'Brien is not paid a director's fee. Mr Milner deposes that Mr O'Brien is currently unaware of any individual capable of managing Hydration's affairs who is prepared to accept an appointment as a director of that company without remuneration. Nevertheless, if he is precluded from managing Hydration, Mr O'Brien believes that the individual likely to replace him as a director would be a businessman who would expect to be remunerated at an appropriate commercial rate of payment. No rate of payment to that individual has yet been agreed.
70 There is no evidence as to the profitability of Hydration or the extent to which it is able to afford to employ a director in lieu of Mr O'Brien for the next nine months to manage the company's affairs. Furthermore, there is no evidence as to precisely what management tasks Mr O'Brien carries out for Hydration. On that the evidence is silent. The only asserted claim of prejudice as a consequence of being unable to act as a director of Hydration is that, in the event that Mr O'Brien's appeal succeeds, any director's fee paid in the meantime to a replacement director would be lost. But this would be the company's loss, not that of Mr O'Brien. I do not regard that possibility as significant in the absence of specific evidence to the contrary.
71 As I have indicated, Mr O'Brien is a non-executive director of Hexima and T&C. He is Chairman of the former. In respect of the financial year ending 30 June 2008 Mr O'Brien was paid a director's fee of $70,000 by T&C. He was paid a similar fee for the financial year ending 30 June 2009. According to T&C's 2008 Annual Report he is a substantial shareholder holding approximately 4.3% of the issued capital.
72 In respect of the financial year ending 30 June 2009 Hexima paid Mr O'Brien a director's fee of $170,000. According to Hexima's 2009 Annual Report Mr O'Brien is also a substantial shareholder holding approximately 8.5% of the issued capital (excluding options).
73 If he ceases to be a director of those companies he will lose his remuneration which, according to Mr Milner, forms a substantial part of Mr O'Brien's annual income. Furthermore, Mr Milner believes that if the disqualification order is not stayed, and even if Mr O'Brien's appeal is successful, the latter is concerned that his prospects of being asked to rejoin the boards of Hexima and T&C are low and, more generally, that his prospects of obtaining a role in the future as a public company director would be damaged.
74 With respect to the last-mentioned concern, any damage to Mr O'Brien's reputation as a public company director has already been caused by the primary judge's published findings. If those findings are reversed on appeal then no doubt his reputation will be reinstated. I do not accept that any stay of the disqualification order will make any difference to Mr O'Brien's reputation as a public company director if he is successful on his appeal. If he is to be vindicated and his reputation restored, it will be as a result of the success of his appeal: see [27] above.
75 Finally as to the other companies of which Mr O'Brien is a director, Mr Milner deposes that he was informed that those are private companies directly or indirectly owned by Mr O'Brien in which he has a substantial direct or indirect shareholding. Mr O'Brien believes that if a stay of his appeal is not granted then he will need to retain someone to continue to manage those companies. He anticipates that any such person would need to be remunerated at market rates. Without having any idea as to the activities of those companies and the extent to which any of them requires a person outside of Mr O'Brien's family to actively manage them so as to justify being paid an appropriate rate of remuneration, I do not find the evidence in respect of those companies to be compelling in terms of the issue of prejudice.
76 I turn now to the affidavits of Messrs Critchley and Skala. Mr Critchley is a non-executive director and Chairman of T&C. In an affidavit sworn for the purposes of the penalty proceedings before the primary judge, Mr Critchley stated, amongst other things, that it was not in T&C's interest for Mr O'Brien to resign as a non-executive director; that he has made and continues to make an important and valuable contribution to T&C and to have the unanimous support of T&C's board. In his affidavit sworn 14 September 2009 Mr Critchley deposes that notwithstanding having read the relevant parts of the primary judge's decision with respect to the disqualification of Mr O'Brien from managing a corporation, he nevertheless remains of the opinion that it is not in T&C's interests for Mr O'Brien to resign. He remains of the opinion that Mr O'Brien has made, and will continue to make, an important and valuable contribution to the company.
77 Mr Critchley confirms that the other directors of T&C are of a similar view and considers, as a matter of preference, that it is in T&C's best interests for Mr O'Brien to remain a non-executive director of that company.
78 Finally, Mr Critchley deposes that if Mr O'Brien is prohibited from continuing to act as a non-executive director pending his appeal, the current board of T&C could not guarantee that Mr O'Brien would be asked to rejoin the board in the event that his appeal is successful and that it would be uncertain whether, in that event, he would be asked to rejoin the board.
79 Mr Skala is a non-executive director of Hexima. He also swore an affidavit in the penalty proceedings to the same effect as that of Mr Critchley, but applying to Hexima. Notwithstanding having read the primary judge's penalty judgment disqualifying Mr O'Brien from managing a corporation, he and his fellow directors remain of the view that Mr O'Brien's contribution to Hexima is highly valued and that the loss of his expertise as a non-executive director would be detrimental to that company. He also deposes that in the event of a stay of the primary judge's disqualification order being refused, Hexima would have to appoint a new chairman to replace Mr O'Brien and would in all likelihood "in due course" appoint a non-executive director to replace him as a member of the company's board. Following such an appointment the board would be appropriately reconstituted making it unlikely that Mr O'Brien would be asked to rejoin the board if his appeal against the disqualification order was successful.
80 There are three comments I wish to make about the evidence of Messrs Critchley and Skala. The first is that only Mr Skala deposes that the loss of Mr O'Brien's expertise as a non-executive director of Hexima would be detrimental to that company. However, he gives no details to support that general assertion. Second, although I can accept that Mr O'Brien makes a positive contribution as a non-executive director to each of Hexima and T&C and as Chairman of the former, there is nothing in the evidence of either Mr Skala or Mr Critchley that would justify the conclusion that, if a stay is not granted, the absence of Mr O'Brien from the board of each of those companies would significantly or materially affect their commercial activities, their profitability or the value of their shares. Third, there is no evidence as to the number of directors required in respect of each of those companies so that it is not self-evident that it will be necessary, in the event that a stay is refused, for Mr O'Brien's position on the board of each company to be filled pending the hearing and determination of his appeal. By law, there must be a minimum of three directors of a public company: see s 201A(2) of the Act. Each of Hexima and T&C have six directors of whom five are non-executive. Mr O'Brien's loss to those boards will reduce their numbers to five, well above the minimum required by law.
81 I accept that it will be necessary for Hexima to replace Mr O'Brien as Chairman, but there is nothing in the evidence of either Mr Skala or Mr Critchley that indicates that, pending the determination of Mr O'Brien's appeal, it will be essential or even necessary to immediately replace him as a non-executive director; or if he is replaced, that it necessarily follows that if his appeal succeeds, he will not be invited to rejoin those boards given their expressed views as to his positive contribution to the work of those boards. That no guarantee can be given that he will be asked to rejoin is too vague to support a finding of actual prejudice.
82 Finally, I note Mr Milner's evidence that the director's fees received by Mr O'Brien from Hexima and T&C form a substantial part of his annual income. This may be so, but there is no evidence as to Mr O'Brien's financial position and it is not suggested that the loss of those director's fees will render him destitute or otherwise unable financially to pursue his appeal. Again, the terms in which Mr Milner has expressed himself on this matter are too vague and lack the necessary detail to justify making a finding of significant financial prejudice as a consequence of the loss of approximately $180,000 in gross income from director's fees over the next nine months. If Mr O'Brien is to make a case of significant personal financial prejudice, then he will need to be far more detailed in his evidence than he has been to date.