"MH: Yes, I mean a lot of troops will probably be disappointed because in their minds clearly they would see the Mickelbergs being very guilty of the offences, um, and it is a disappointment to them but the fact of the matter is that they are all professional police officers and all understand the legal system very very clearly and they have all had disappointments before in trials, so they just get on with their business and eh, eh, put it aside, because it's not just appeals where you lose cases, you lose cases at trial as well.
Q. One of the um, one of the things that Lewandowski was saying was that he always maintained his belief that the Mickelbergs were guilty, what's your belief having seen the evidence in the case?
MH: Well, my belief is the same, is exactly the same. I have seen the evidence in its total form and I, I mean well once again we can speculate about what the original jury would have done having all the facts available to it about Lewandowski's evidence, um, but, put aside the Lewandowski evidence and this has been argued of course in the appeal court, that there is an abundance of evidence which suggest, to point the finger in their direction. So that evidence is still there, that hasn't been expunged or taken away in any way, it still exists today and one can't ignore it."