The last two answers were given by ticking boxes. Ms Mumford gave the following further evidence-in-chief (Tcpt, p 343):
"Q. Did you discuss protection issues with Mr Mastronardi?
A. I have to discuss protection issues with everyone coming into custody.
Q. What's your routine? What do you tell them?
A. I ask them do they know what protection is. And from reading my screening form, I could see that Mr Mastronardi was a first-time offender, so I have to go into it in depth and explain what protection is all about. I explain that some people, be they unaware, but they need protection because they have certain charges where they're at risk, or they can sometimes owe money for drugs, and then they may have an association problem as a result of that.
Some people present intellectually disabled and I can automatically sign people, have them signed onto to protection if they fall into certain categories, like sex offenders, paedophiles, people that are intellectually delayed, people that are gay. And sometimes there's other reasons that they may disclose to me and I put them onto protection.
Q. Thank you. Do you tell how they go about getting onto protection?
A. Yes, I do. I do.
9 It may be seen that Ms Mumford was speaking about general practice, rather than a particular conversation she recalled having with the plaintiff. She then gave similar evidence with respect to explaining the availability of a "red knock-up button" available on the wall of each cell. Her evidence included a routine explanation that "if ever at any time you feel you need protection, you … hit the button … tell the officer when they respond immediately that you require protection". She continued:
"Or should you be in another location, like out in the main, or in the yard, or anywhere and you feel you are being threatened for some reason and you are feeling unsafe, just go to the nearest custodial officer.
I explain, just in case they don't know, 'that's the person in the blue shirt', and tell them you need to sign on to protection immediately and it will happen."
10 There was no significant cross-examination of Ms Mumford: it appears to have been common ground that the plaintiff did not seek protection at that stage.
11 The next officer he spoke with, on the same evening, was Ms Christine Muller, a nurse employed in the Corrections Health Service. She completed a form headed "Clinical Reception Assessment" which included under the heading Employment History, "Type of work - Security". She had no independent recollection of interviewing the plaintiff, but confirmed the notes she had taken at the time. She gave no evidence as to whether she would have seen any significance in his prior employment in "security"; there was no significant cross-examination of her.
12 The next relevant evidence was the testimony of the plaintiff in relation to certain threats made whilst he was being detained in an area known as POD 13 in the Silverwater complex in a building known as Goldsmith. The building was of two storeys with a floor plan having two connecting diamonds. Each diamond was split transversely across the point of connection, giving rise to four separate triangular areas. Each area had approximately 40 cells, 20 on each level, with an office used by the prison officers alongside a metal gate which allowed access between two areas and to a common exercise yard. The area next to that in which the plaintiff was detained was known as POD 14.
13 In his evidence-in-chief, the plaintiff asserted that a number of threats had been made to him, prior to the first assault. The timing was somewhat unclear. His initial evidence was as follows (Tcpt, 28 February 2005, p 6-7):
"Q. After you had been there a short time, did a prisoner say something to you about your previous occupation?
A. Yes, he did.
Q. OK. Did you know that prisoner?
A. No I didn't.
Q. Where did this conversation take place?
A. … This conversation took place through my window which led out to the yard.
Q. You are saying, are you, that you were in a cell on the perimeter of POD 13 which had a window out into this joint exercise yard?
A. That's correct.
Q. What did this prisoner say to you?
A. 'Sir, I know who you are. You're a dog.'
Q. Can you take it slowly and clearly?
A. 'I know who you are' he said, 'You're a dog and we're going to kill you. We're going to get you.'
…
Q. In respect of this first threat to you, did you tell anyone about it, did you do anything about it?
A. Yes, I did.
…
Q. What did you do in relation to the threat that had been made to you?
A. I approached the POD office, the POD desk. …
I approached the desk, told them I'd been threatened. … I said, 'Someone knows me here. I'm in trouble. I'm in danger, I need your help. I need to get out of this POD. I'm going to have dramas.'
Q. Now, when you had first been accommodated, put into POD 13, had you told the officers that you'd previously been a security agent?
A. Yes.
Q. What was the response from the officers' desk when you relayed this threat to them?
A. Their response was no concern, 'You'll be right, we'll keep an eye on you.'"
14 The reference to the earlier communication that he had been a security agent was somewhat obscure. It may have been a reference to information given to Ms Muller, as recorded in her crisis assessment sheet under "Employment", or something else may have been intended. The point was not clarified. However, in re-examination with respect to his induction, he stated (Tcpt, 1 March 2005, p 162-3):
"Q. Was there any discussion at that time about the fact that you'd been a security agent?
A. At that time, yes.
Q. OK. Do you remember who you were talking to at the time?
A. No, I don't.
Q. What did you say at the time?
A. I told him about my previous employment in a related field of law enforcement and that if I had any troubles, could they be approached? No problem.
Q. And what was the response from the officer?
A. 'Yep, no worries.' They said, 'If you need anything, see the officers.'"
15 Given that the time referred to was the time of his initial induction, and that he disclaimed recollection of the person to whom he was talking, little weight could be placed upon the use of "him": he was probably recounting a conversation with Ms Mumford or Ms Muller. That is consistent with him being advised, in the case of a problem, to "see the officers". Similarly, although this appears to be the recounting of his question, namely "could they be approached", the conversation only makes sense if that is a reference to officers rather than the earlier employer.
16 In relation to the first threat, two points are significant: first that it occurred whilst he was in his cell and was being spoken to by a person in the exercise yard. If the inmates of POD 13 were in their cell area, it seems likely that the people in the exercise yard were from POD 14. However, the request which accompanied his report to the officers, apparently included the statement that he needed to "get out of this POD". Given the lapse of more than six years between the date of the incident and the trial, it is probably unrealistic to place any emphasis on the precise language used in his evidence. Nevertheless, one of several gaps in the evidence called for the plaintiff at trial concerned the degree of possible communication between inmates in POD 13 and those in POD 14.
17 A second threat and assault occurred at a time which was also somewhat unclear, due to the imprecise leading of the evidence (Tcpt, 28 February 2005, p 8):
"Q. Did something further happen of a similar nature - that is, a threat - on that day, or the next day, or a couple of days later or something?
A. Yes."