John v Health Secretary in respect of Ambulance Service of NSW
[2023] NSWIRComm 1115
At a glance
Source factsCourt
Industrial Relations Commission (NSW)
Decision date
2023-11-17
Source
Original judgment source is linked above.
Judgment (9 paragraphs)
decision
- This is an appeal pursuant to s 188 of the Industrial Relations Act 1996 (NSW) (IR Act) by Ms Sally-Ann John (appellant) against the decision of Commissioner Sloan in John v Health Secretary in respect of Ambulance Service of NSW [2023] NSWIRComm 1073 (Decision) to dismiss her application for relief pursuant to s 84 of the IR Act.
- Having considered the written outlines of submissions of the parties, the Full Bench required the parties to first address the appellant's application for the Full Bench to receive further evidence. Having considered the parties' additional oral submissions, the Full Bench informed the parties it would not grant leave for further evidence, and that reasons for that decision would follow.
- The Full Bench then required the parties to address the question of leave to appeal, before the Full Bench would conduct a hearing into the merits of the appeal. Having considered the parties' additional oral submissions, the Full Bench informed the parties that leave to appeal had been refused, and that reasons for that decision would follow.
- These are our reasons for both decisions.
Background
- Under the heading "Factual Context", Commissioner Sloan set out the events which led to the appellant's dismissal. The full text is set out at [4] - [17] of the Decision. In summary: 1. the appellant commenced employment with the respondent as a paramedic in January 2005, completed her training in July 2011, and obtained a Bachelor of Paramedicine in 2018; 2. on 13 July 2021, following exposure to a positive case of COVID-19, and pursuant to a Public Health Order, she was ordered to self-isolate for 14 days; 3. on 20 July 2021 she confirmed to NSW Ambulance that she understood she could not leave her home except for the purpose of further testing; 4. on 24 July 2021, while the Greater Sydney region was in a COVID-19 "lockdown", she participated in a protest rally in central Sydney. She claimed that she had not originally intended to attend, but did so to support her husband; 5. the appellant live-streamed her participation in that rally on a social media account that identified her as a paramedic; 6. later that day she called her supervisor, said that she had "fucked up" and told him of her participation in the protest. She informed him that she had "uploaded stuff to [her] TikTok account and that someone [had] taken it upon [themselves] to share it all over Twitter"; 7. the appellant's participation in the rally attracted media attention. Members of the public and other paramedics made written complaints to NSW Ambulance; 8. the appellant was charged with failing to comply with a public health order and pleaded guilty. The Local Court imposed a 12-month conditional release order without recording a conviction; 9. the respondent suspended her, initially with pay, while it undertook an investigation into her conduct, and later without pay after the respondent became aware that her registration as a health practitioner had been suspended by the Paramedicine Council of New South Wales; 10. seven allegations of misconduct were made against the appellant by the respondent. Four related to her behaviour on 24 July 2021. One allegation arose from the charge and plea of guilty in the Local Court. Two related to her alleged failure to report to the respondent, respectively, the criminal charge and the suspension of her registration; 11. in framing those allegations, the respondent transcribed portions of the appellant's comments during the livestream. She was alleged to have said: "Of course the police have turned this peaceful protest into shit. As usual its always the fucking cops that do this. Always turn something peaceful into something it shouldn't be. Fucking pigs!" "They've started everything. It was a peaceful protest. We were doing nothing wrong. Then they come in with the tear gas and the heavy handedness... It's just bullshit." "And they're supposed to serve us. And we pay them." "Lockdown is not the way to go. But they're dictated by higher up to do what they're doing today." "Everyone should just come around and come in front the back of the police and just push them along." "I think everyone should stand their ground actually. The men should be up there. Let's get the men up there! Let's go! Let the men stand the ground. You guys, get up there! Stand your ground!" "The coppers are shitting themselves. They're all standing back to back. They're totally fucking outnumbered." "And no we will not go home. Fuck you and your comments on here. You fucking go home. Least I care about my country and my family. You fucking arseholes sitting on your arse there in front of the computer. Doing fucking jackshit and taking the fucking vaccine. No we won't go home. We are home. This is our home. Australia's our home. And we're trying to protect it. All you people saying go home…psshtt, youse got no idea. You've been brainwashed. Youse are all brainwashed. Is it nice to know you don't have a free thought in your head. That you do everything the government tells you. Pssshht no thank you. And regardless of what job I have, I still am able to think about things. I still have an opinion and a thought. And know this wrong. But all you people, you sheep who like to lap it up. 'Oh I'm going to get my vaccine'. Yeah right, it's not even a vaccine. You should do your research." 1. the appellant admitted to the allegations and did not dispute the words attributed to her. She expressed contrition and remorse; and 2. on 17 March 2023 Ms John's employment with the respondent was terminated.