[14] The plaintiff is concerned about the bona fides of this transaction. His concerns arise from the fact that Mr Banovec appears to have (or to have been promised) a 16% interest in the purchasing group and from his inability to demonstrate receipt of the purchase price by the selling companies. The plaintiff also entertains doubts as to whether the price was a proper price. Part of the plaintiff's concern centres upon the role of a Mr Frampton who appears to have been involved in both the selling group and the buying group and whose reply to a request for information about the receipt of the purchase moneys came from solicitors and declined to provide any information on that matter. It is a document apparently originating from Mr Frampton which refers to the intention that Mr Banovec should have a 16% interest in the purchasing group. As to the adequacy of the price, the plaintiff refers in his affidavit to the fact that the loans identified in the sale agreement as involved in the 'loan book' total more than $434m. While that may be so, the figure of $434m is not indicative of the value of the 'loan book' as defined, that is, 'the right to receive Commissions and margins' referable to the listed loans."
8 In his affidavit filed in the present proceedings, Mr Jones refers to inquiries he has made about the purchasers under this second transaction. He has also made inquiries about so-called "Capital Trust franchises" which appear to be arrangements under which persons unrelated to the defendant and ACN operate "franchises" of or for the Capital Trust. These arrangements were, it appears, entered into by the defendant but invoices were sent to the other parties by ACN. In these connections, it seems that all of ACN, the defendant and the purported assignee under the September 2004 assignment purported to execute documents as trustee of the Capital Trust. Mr Jones adds that "it appears that there has been a combining of the financial information relevant to [the defendant] with financial information for [ACN]".
9 This last matter has presented particular difficulties for Mr Jones as he attempts to perform his functions as liquidator of ACN. For example, a bank account which he believes was used by ACN is in the name of the defendant and the bank will not give him details of transactions on it. Nor will the Australian Taxation Office give him information about the defendant which he considers is really information pertinent to ACN.
10 Mr Jones next refers to the results of examinations of certain officers of ACN and other persons. I quote from his affidavit:
"Further, from the Examinations, it was evident that there had been an intermingling of the finances of [ACN] and [the defendant]. I have received a number of proofs of debt from creditors of [ACN] who also purport and may very well be creditors of [the defendant], in particular, the creditors who purport to have claims arising out of Franchise Agreements for the Capital Trust. Some of these agreements were entered into by [the defendant] in its capacity as trustee and some were entered into simply in [the defendant's name]. The exact dealings of [the defendant] in relation to the Franchise Agreements has not been fully investigated by me, as my powers in respect of [the defendant] have been limited, due to the fact that I am not a liquidator of [the defendant]."
11 The reasons why Mr Jones wishes to be liquidator of the defendant and considers that such an appointment will be beneficial are stated at the end of his affidavit:
"My concern is, that if I am not appointed the Liquidator of [the defendant], there is likely to be a substantial duplication of the work which I have already carried out as liquidator of the [ACN] in any liquidation of [the defendant]. Further, there appears to be a substantial overlapping of the creditors in respect of both [ACN] and [the defendant] and it is difficult, if not impossible, to distinguish between who may be creditors of [the defendant] and [ACN] at this point in time and what are the financial and other records of [ACN] and [the defendant]. This essentially arises from both [ACN] and [the defendant], being the trustees of the Capital Trust and on some occasions, both purporting to be the trustee of the Capital Trust at the same time, notwithstanding [the defendant's] resignation on 1 September 2004."
12 The question posed by the interlocutory process is really as to the significance and effect of the overlap and intersection between the affairs of ACN and the affairs of the defendant. On the view taken by Mr Jones, efficiencies would be achieved if one person were the liquidator of both so that one mind could be brought to bear on matters at hand in which the roles of the two companies seem to be confused. The contrary view is taken by the plaintiff. It maintains that the apparent overlap and confusion are best dealt with by a situation in which the independent thinking and analysis of two liquidators are available.
13 Mr Cook of counsel, who appeared for the plaintiff, emphasised the need for a liquidator to be able to bring unbiased and objective judgment to bear. He referred to the following passage in the judgment of Young J (as he then was) in National Australia Bank Ltd v Market Holdings Pty Ltd (2001) 37 ACSR 629 at p.658:
"What the court looks for in a liquidator is a person who can deal with the disputes that will inevitably arise in the liquidation in a fair and just way. The duties of a liquidator in this aspect of his or her task may be considered briefly under three heads, the duty to be independent, the duty to act impartially and the duty to avoid conflict between duty and interest or duty and duty. The duties owed by a liquidator in a court winding up and a liquidator in a creditors' voluntary winding up are analogous: see McPherson, op cit, at p 294; Re Intercontinental Properties Pty Ltd (in liq) (1977) 2 ACLR 488 at 491; Re Mecirt Holdings Pty Ltd; Ex parte Mecirt Pty Ltd (1998) 16 ACLC 1148 at 1151. I will briefly consider these three aspects of duty."
14 Mr Cook also drew attention to the following passage in his Honour's judgment (also at p.658):
"The authorities truly say that it is necessary for a liquidator not only to be independent, but also to be seen to be independent: Re Chevron Furnishers Pty Ltd (in liq); Queensland Amalgamated Industries v Harris [1995] 1 Qd R 125; (1993) 12 ACSR 565 at 570. Usually this means that the liquidator must have no prior or other involvement either with the company in liquidation, its directors and major shareholders, or one of its creditors so that he or she could not fairly and impartially carry out his or her duties as liquidator requiring him or her, in broad terms, to act in the best interests of the general body of creditors: Re Chevron Furnishers Pty Ltd at 570 Re National Safety Council of Australia (Vic Div) [1990] VR 29 at 34; (1989) 15 ACLR 355; Re Queensland Stations Pty Ltd (1991) 9 ACLC 1341 at 1344; Re Giant Resources Ltd [1991] 1 Qd R 107; Re Club Superstores Aust Pty Ltd (in liq) (1993) 10 ACSR 730."
15 Mr Johnson of counsel, who appeared for ACN, did not seek to detract in any way from the need to appoint someone able to act in a fair and just way. He did, however, submit that, in the particular circumstances of this case, there would be no compromising of standards if Mr Jones were appointed so that the envisaged efficiencies might be realised.
16 It would not be appropriate to appoint Mr Jones as liquidator of the defendant if there were any clear apprehension of conflicting interests as between the defendant and ACN. As I view the matters discussed in Mr Jones' affidavit, things have not yet reached any such point and may well never do so. ACN is a creditor of the defendant but it is not suggested, at least at this stage, that the rights and obligations in that respect are otherwise than clear. The source of difficulties is relationships between, on the one hand, one or other of the defendant and ACN (it is sometimes not clear which) and, on the other, third parties, whether they be purchasers or assignees under the two transactions, so-called "franchisees" or others.
17 The situation is thus analogous to that in which a "group" of related companies fails and the separate companies enter winding up. As is shown by the various "pooling" cases recently considered by the Court of Appeal in Re The Black Stump Enterprises Pty Ltd [2005] NSWCA 480, advantages can often accrue to the separate bodies of creditors in a "group" situation if one liquidator is acting.
18 Guidance on the present question is provided by the judgment of Needham J in Re Nuhan Ltd (1980) 5 ACLR 69. In that case, one person was appointed to be liquidator of each of three associated companies. The considerations that led Needham J to take that course appear from the following passage in the judgment (at p.76):
"I think that in the first instance I should appoint one liquidator only. My reason for this conclusion is that, as I have said, much investigation still needs to be done. It is, I think, preferable in the interest of economy that only one liquidator be appointed initially. The liquidator appointed is an officer of the court, in the sense that he is under the control of the court, and he will be aware that should the stage be reached that conflicts cannot fairly be resolved without the appointment of another liquidator he should approach the court to be relieved of one of the offices. I envisage from the evidence presently available that that stage could well be reached. The A list liquidator who is next on the list for appointment is John William O'Brien and I appoint him liquidator of each of the three companies."
19 Needham J had earlier said, in Re Pacific Acceptance Corporation Ltd (1977) 2 ACLR 528:
"In the normal case where there is a winding up of a holding company and of a subsidiary it is plainly in the interests of the creditors in some respects that the same person should be appointed liquidator. If there are matters which might arise as between the holding company and the subsidiary company then, of course, it would be unwise to appoint one liquidator to both companies."
20 In Re HIH Insurance Ltd (unreported, NSWSC, 15 March 2001), a creditor submitted that the same persons should not be provisional liquidators of each of several related companies. Bergin J made the appointments, saying:
"Mr Ryan in response submits that Mr McGrath and Mr Macintosh who have consented to act as provisional liquidators and if to either of those men there appears to be a conflict then one would, of course, expect either of those two men or both of them to immediately approach the Court to indicate such a position.
I do not require an undertaking from either Mr McGrath or Mr Macintosh, whom I intend to appoint, to approach the Court should there be a conflict. I take the view it goes without saying and it is part of their obligation."
21 The court is thus generally content to leave with the liquidator concerned the responsibility to be vigilant for the future emergence of conflicts. Of course, if any real possibility of conflict is apparent at the outset, the appointment will not be made. That is not the position here. In the absence of any clear grounds for an apprehension of conflict between the two companies - but recognising that, as investigations proceed, such an apprehension may emerge - the appropriate course is to appoint Mr Jones as liquidator of the defendant. Advantages and efficiencies will flow from this. But because of the need for conscious attention to be given to the possibility of conflict at some later stage, I intend to make an order that he report to the court in due course.
22 The considerations I have canvassed concerning independence and the ability to being unbiased and objective judgment to bear are also relevant to the question of any grant of leave under s.532(2)(c) in respect of Mr Jones. That provision is as follows:
"(2) Subject to this section, a person must not, except with the leave of the Court, seek to be appointed, or act, as liquidator of a company:
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