Cassimatis v Australian Securities and Investments Commission
[2020] FCAFC 52
At a glance
Source factsCourt
Federal Court of Australia (Full Court)
Decision date
2020-03-27
Before
Thawley JJ
Source
Original judgment source is linked above.
Judgment (48 paragraphs)
The application of s 180 of the Act 158 The integers of the objective standard of care and diligence reflected in the text of s 180(1) of the Act are clear enough. 159 A director must exercise his or her powers and discharge his or her duties with the degree of care and diligence that a reasonable person would exercise if they were a director of the corporation in the corporation's circumstances, and occupied the office held by the director whose conduct is impugned, and had the same responsibilities within the corporation as that director. 160 The powers exercised by the appellants at the time of the provision by Storm of financial advice to the 11 vulnerable retail investors were the powers of management of Storm's undertaking as a financial services provider as described in these reasons. The corporation's circumstances engaged many things, but important among them were that the corporation had conceived a financial model described in very great detail by the primary judge, the elements of which are not challenged. It was a model that embraced debt through "double gearing" using a borrower's house as security coupled with a margin loan to aggregate funds for investment in weighted index funds: see [33] to [44] of these reasons. Storm had been successful over time in deploying that model, central as it was, to its financial services undertaking: see [2] of these reasons. 161 A second aspect of the corporation's circumstances were that it was engaging with a range of retail and wholesale investors and, of particular relevance to these proceedings, it was engaging with the 11 retail investors, all of whom were persons who exhibited the five characteristics of financial vulnerability described at [10] of these reasons. 162 The primary proceeding, of course, was not concerned with an action against the appellants to recover losses suffered by the 11 vulnerable investors on whatever grounds that might have been advanced. 163 However, the circumstance that the corporation, in the conduct of its undertaking and the deployment of its centrally important double gearing financial model, was engaging with retail investors exhibiting the characteristics of financial vulnerability described at [10] of these reasons, forms, for the purposes of the primary proceeding, an important element of "the corporation's circumstances" having regard to which the postulated reasonable person would exercise care and diligence when exercising powers and discharging duties of management and governance of the corporation so far as s 180(1)(a) is concerned. 164 That is why the particular circumstances of the 11 vulnerable investors must not be overlooked and why the illustrative detail of those circumstances is set out at [18] and [19] of these reasons, so far as Mr and Mrs Dodson and Mr and Mrs Herd are concerned. 165 However, the degree of care and diligence required of the appellants by reference to the normative objective statutory standard of s 180(1) is measured by taking into account not only the matters at s 180(1)(a), but also by the reasonable person taking into account both the office occupied by the appellants and the same responsibilities within Storm, as the responsibilities of the appellants within Storm. 166 Critically for this case, those responsibilities included responsibility for Storm's operations "at a high level" which engaged knowledge of every aspect of the Storm model. It engaged an "extraordinary degree of control over every aspect of the model and Storm's operations". There is no need to repeat here the matters at [59] to [70] of these reasons. At [691], the primary judge also observed that Mr and Mrs Cassimatis exercised their powers, as directors, and used their "considerable assumed responsibilities to create circumstances which involved their extremely significant control over Storm and its affairs, and over its advisers" [emphasis added]. That degree of engagement meant that it fell to the appellants to discharge the responsibilities, within the corporation, they had assumed, so far as the 11 vulnerable investors were concerned, of ensuring that Storm gave such consideration to, and conducted such investigation of, the subject matter of the advice given to those investors as was reasonable in all of the circumstances, and that the advice given to them, having regard to the consideration and investigation of the subject matter of the advice, was appropriate. In Rich (2009) 236 FLR 1 at [7202], Austin J observed that the word "responsibilities … encompasses the tasks that fall within [the director's] bailiwick" and "directs attention to the factual arrangements operating within the company and affecting the director or officer in question". It includes "arrangements flowing from the experience and skills that he or she brings to bear to the office, and also any arrangements within the board or between the person and the executive management affecting the work that the person is expected to carry out". 167 Thus, the two critical "responsibilities" of the appellants "within the corporation" for the purposes of s 180(1)(b), as directors of Storm, were these. 168 First, the responsibilities which came with the extraordinary degree of control they exercised over Storm: the formulation of the model; the deployment of the double gearing model in the provision of advice to investors; supervision of the risk profiling of the investors; the control of the day-to-day affairs of Storm; and all aspects of the supervision of the undertaking in the granular way described in the reasons of the primary judge and as identified, in synthesis, in these reasons (without repeating the content of those matters here). 169 Second, the responsibilities included ensuring that investors obtained from Storm (and particularly retail investors exhibiting the five characteristics of vulnerability described at [10] of these reasons), consideration and investigation of the subject matter of the advice to be given to them (and given to them), as was reasonable in all of the circumstances and that, having regard to those matters, the advice given to those investors was appropriate to each of the 11 investors in question. 170 Even though the weight of authority and the antecedents to s 180(1) as described earlier in these reasons, make plain that the objective degree of statutory care and diligence as framed by the section, and at law, is a duty owed to the company (Maxwell, 59 ACSR 373 at [102] and [104], Brereton J; Australian Securities and Investments Commission v Warrenmang Ltd (2007) 63 ACSR 623, Gordon J at [22]), the circumstances within which Storm was providing advice to its 11 vulnerable retail investors required Storm to engage with the circumstances of those investors, and those engagements were matters or circumstances brought into the statutory calculus of the degree of care and diligence required of the appellants measured against the standard of the reasonable person, acting as a director, in those circumstances, and occupying the office held by the directors, and having the same responsibilities within the corporation as the appellants. 171 As to the "necessary element" or "ingredient" in the "concept" of "care and diligence" of a foreseeable risk of harm or jeopardy (to adopt the terms used by Austin J in Rich at [7196] and [7197]), for the purposes of the statutory standard in s 180(1) of the Act, the following reasoning of the primary judge needs to be recalled. 172 Because of the extraordinary degree of control over Storm exercised by Mr and Mrs Cassimatis, the appellants, according to the findings of the primary judge, would reasonably have been aware that the Storm Financial model was used in formulating and giving advice to the financially vulnerable 11 retail investors. 173 The primary judge concluded that a reasonable director, with that knowledge, with the responsibilities of Mr and Mrs Cassimatis (as earlier described), occupying the office occupied by them and in the corporation's circumstances (as earlier described), would have realised that the application of the double gearing model to the 11 vulnerable investors was likely to involve "inappropriate advice": PJ at [22], and the matters discussed at [80] to [109] of these reasons. 174 A reasonable director, in Storm's circumstances and having the responsibilities of the appellants, would have taken "some alleviating precautions to prevent the giving of that advice" (PJ at [22] and the matters discussed at [80] to [109] of these reasons), so as to guard against the devastating consequences for investors in the vulnerable class (those exhibiting the five characteristics at [10] of these reasons). 175 Those consequences arose out of the appellants' failure to be "reasonably aware" (as they should have been, as found) that Storm did not give such consideration to the subject matter of the advice to the vulnerable investors, and nor did it conduct such investigation of the subject matter of the advice given to them, as was reasonable in all the circumstances; and also because the financial advice given to the 11 vulnerable investors was not appropriate (and could not have been appropriate "having regard to" the consideration and investigation that ought to have been carried out), as a consideration and investigation of the subject matter of the advice, as was reasonable in all the circumstances, did not occur. 176 The failure of the appellants to act in the way a reasonable director would have acted, with the relevant knowledge, occupying the office, in the corporation's circumstances, with the responsibilities of the appellants, would give rise to a foreseeable risk of contraventions of s 945A(1)(b) and s 945A(1)(c) (and also s 912A(1)(a) and s 912A(1)(b)) which would expose the company to a potential loss of its AFSL and potential harm in the form of a threat to the company's "very existence": PJ at [774] to [778]; [102] to [108] of these reasons. 177 The conduct described at [172] to [176] of these reasons, coupled with the foreseeable risk of harm to the interests of the corporation (by reason of the conduct which rendered Storm in contravention of ss 945A(1)(b), 945A(1)(c), 912A(1)(a) and 912A(1)(b)), was conduct of the appellants engaging a contravention of s 180(1) of the Act: see [89] to [109] of these reasons and the conclusionary finding of the primary judge at [697], at [98] of these reasons. 178 The conduct failures of the appellants constituting the contravention of s 180(1) were conduct failures which gave rise to the contraventions by Storm of those sections just described: PJ at [697]; [98] of these reasons. The contravention by Storm of those sections was relevant and material to the character of the foreseeable risk of harm or jeopardy to the interests of the corporation as an element or ingredient of s 180(1), but the contravention of s 180(1), by the appellants, did not arise simply because the corporation contravened those sections. The contraventions by Storm arose out of a primary failure on the part of the appellants, as directors, to act in accordance with the objective standard of care and diligence required of them by s 180(1), and features of that conduct engaged conduct which brought about the contraventions by Storm of the identified sections of the Act. 179 In my view, that reasoning of the primary judge is entirely sound. No error has been demonstrated in the reasoning as to the principles, or the application of the principles, to the facts. I will return to some specific matters shortly. The primary judge did not conclude, and nor did ASIC contend before the primary judge or on appeal, that because Storm contravened ss 945A(1)(b), 945A(1)(c), 912A(1)(a) and 912A(1)(b), and the appellants participated in conduct giving rise to those contraventions by Storm, the appellants therefore necessarily engaged in a contravention of s 180(1). Characterising the reasoning in that way inverts the process of reasoning; fails to recognise the analysis of the direct conduct of the appellants in contravention of s 180(1) that exposed the corporation to contravention of the identified sections of the Act; and has the effect of incorrectly characterising the contravention of s 180(1) by the appellants as a "backdoor form of accessorial liability" operating outside the proper boundaries of s 79 of the Act, which has its own very particular integers. 180 In Maxwell, Brereton J said the following, on this topic at [104] and [110]: [104] There are cases in which it will be a contravention of their duties, owed to the company, for directors to authorise or permit the company to commit contraventions of provisions of the Corporations Act. Relevant jeopardy to the interests of the company may be found in the actual or potential exposure of the company to civil penalties or other liability under the Act, and it may no doubt be a breach of a relevant duty for a director to embark on or authorise a course which attracts the risk of that exposure, at least if the risk is clear and the countervailing potential benefits insignificant. But it is a mistake to think that ss 180, 181 and 182 are concerned with any general obligation owed by directors at large to conduct the affairs of the company in accordance with the law generally or the Corporations Act in particular; they are not. They are concerned with duties owed to the company. [110] Generally speaking, therefore, ss 180, 181 and 182 do not provide a backdoor method for visiting, on company directors, accessorial civil liability for contraventions of the Corporations Act in respect of which provision is not otherwise made. This is all the moreso since the Corporations Act makes provision for the circumstances in which there is to be accessorial civil liability. Whether there were in this case breaches of directors' duties - and, in particular, of their duty of care and diligence - depends upon an analysis of whether and to what extent the corporation's interests were jeopardised, and if they were, whether the risks obviously outweighed any potential countervailing benefits, and whether there were reasonable steps which could have been taken to avoid them. [emphasis added] 181 In this case, the primary judge conducted an analysis of the conduct of the appellants to determine whether they had exercised the degree of care and diligence in the exercise of their powers as directors required of them, measured against the objective statutory standard of s 180(1). The primary judge evaluated the scope of the jeopardy to Storm's interests in preserving, and not placing at risk, its lawful right to conduct its financial services undertaking (through the critical need to preserve its AFSL) and the way in which that jeopardy might foreseeably, reasonably arise by reason of the conduct described at [172] to [176] and as otherwise described in these reasons. The countervailing benefit to the corporation of continuing to derive fees from the 11 vulnerable investors did not outweigh the risks to the corporation of engaging in the conduct described at [172] to [176] and as otherwise described in these reasons. 182 As to reasonable steps that might have been taken, plainly enough the directors could have taken steps to ensure that the subject matter of the advice was properly considered and investigated, reasonable in all the circumstances relevant to each of the individual 11 vulnerable investors, and appropriate to each of them having regard to the consideration and investigation which ought to have occurred but did not. 183 Although it is plainly correct to say that it is a mistake to think that s 180 is concerned with any "general obligation owed by directors at large to conduct the affairs of the company in accordance with law generally or the Corporations Act in particular" (as a contrary view would be inconsistent with the text of s 180, the context, the purpose of the provision, and the history of the section defining the objective statutory boundaries of the duty of care and diligence), it is also a mistake to think that conduct of directors, otherwise in contravention of the normative objective standard reflected in s 180(1), is immunised from contravention because the liability of a director for his or her conduct falling short of the degree of care and diligence required by the section must necessarily be found only in the integers of s 79 of the Act. Section 79 of the Act has a very different role to play in the scheme of the Act. 184 Section 180(1) has its own proper field of operation, as is manifestly evident in this case having regard to the matters at [160] to [176] of these reasons. 185 As already mentioned (at [117] to [125] of these reasons), the appellants' primary ground of appeal is this. They say that as a solvent company, Storm's interests were those of its shareholders. They say that once it is recognised that Storm's interests were coincidental with, or at least predominantly informed by, the wishes of the appellants as the holders of all of the issued shares in Storm, it follows that the appellants were entitled to choose their own priorities and their own level of risk tolerance for the entity. They say that the primary judge gave insufficient weight to the interests of the appellants as the owners of all issued shares and insufficient weight to the historical success and profitability of the Storm financial model. 186 As to the significance of the relationship between the duty arising under s 180, where the directors, said to have contravened the section, are the shareholders, these observations of Brereton J in Maxwell at [103] should be noted: … [W]here there is an identity of interest between the directors and the shareholders, so that in effect the directors are the shareholders, the requirement to prevent self-interested dealing, constrain management and strengthen shareholder control - which is the fundamental purpose and rationale of these duties - is much less acute. That is a circumstance which can impact considerably on the content of the duties. The significance of a correspondence between the identity of the directors and the shareholders is illustrated by the circumstance that, at general law, a fully informed general meeting can prospectively or retrospectively ratify the actions of directors of the company, though they involve negligence, breach of fiduciary duty or the exercise of the directors' powers for an improper purpose: North-West Transportation Co Ltd v Beatty (1887) 12 App Cas 589; Furs Ltd v Tomkies (1936) 54 CLR 583; Hogg v Cramphorn [1967] Ch 254 at 265-6; Regal (Hastings) Ltd v Gulliver [1967] 2 AC 134; Winthrop Investments Ltd v Winns Ltd [1975] 2 NSWLR 666. Where the directors and the shareholders are one and the same, ratification is implicit. Although the shareholders of a company cannot release the directors from their statutory duties imposed by ss 180, 181 and 182 (Forge v ASIC (2004) 213 ALR 574 at 654-5; [ASIC] v Australian Investors Forum Pty Ltd (No 2) (2005) 53 ACSR 305 at 314-15; Angas Law Services Pty Ltd (in liq) v Carabelas (2005) 215 ALR 110 at [32]), their acquiescence in a course of conduct can affect the practical content of those duties, including any question of whether directors acted with a reasonable degree of care and diligence, and whether they made improper use of their position: Angas Law Services Pty Ltd (in liq) v Carabelas at [29]-[32]. 187 These observations of Brereton J were accepted as correct statements of principle by Austin J in Rich at [7210], although his Honour cautioned against applying these principles in circumstances where there is no precise coincidence between the shareholders and directors. 188 In the above quote, Brereton J refers to aspects of observations by their Honours in Angas Law. In Angas Law (2005) 226 CLR 507, Mr Carabelas and his wife were the holders of the two issued shares in Angas Law and they were the only directors of the company. Mr Carabelas was a legal practitioner. Mrs Carabelas took no active part in the affairs of Angas Law. The transaction which was said to involve a contravention by the directors of the duty of reasonable care and diligence in s 229(2) of the Companies (South Australia) Code involved these matters. 189 Angas Law owed a financier $435,040. In July 1988, the Commonwealth Bank advanced $1.75 million to Mr Carabelas. Of that advance, $435,040 was used to repay the debt owed by Angas Law to the financier. Angas Law granted an "all moneys mortgage" to the bank to secure the indebtedness of Mr Carabelas to the bank. There was no commercial advantage to Angas Law in granting the mortgage except to the extent of the amount used to repay the entity's debt to the financier. In October 1989, the Angas Street property, owned by the entity, was sold for $910,000 and the entire proceeds went to the bank with the result that Mr Carabelas then became indebted to Angas Law in the sum of $474,960 (being $910,000 less the debt paid of $435,040). The liquidator brought proceedings against the directors for compensation under s 229(7) of the Code based upon a contended contravention by the directors of s 229(2). The contention was that the directors, by causing Angas Law to enter into the mortgage transaction, contravened s 229(2). 190 At [29] to [32], Gleeson CJ and Heydon J note that there was no suggestion of any lack of validity in the grant of the mortgage nor any failure to comply with the Articles of Association of Angas Law. The company was solvent. The transaction did not render the company insolvent. Although Mr Carabelas gained an advantage for himself, the issue was whether the transaction was improper, or involved a lack of reasonable care. Their Honours said this at [29]: The question [of] whether corporate transactions of guarantee or third party mortgages involve breaches of directors' duties, or the particular kinds of breach referred to in s 229(2) or s 229(4), usually turn upon a close examination of the commercial context in which they occur. … The unanimous informed consent of the shareholders of ALS, the solvency of ALS and Mr Carabelas, and the absence of any adverse effect on the interests of third parties, were facts relevant to the propriety of the mortgage transaction. As to other aspects of the commercial context, the evidence was thin, but the Full Court's conclusion that, in July 1988, there was no impropriety, and no want of reasonable care, has not been shown to be in error. 191 At [32], their Honours observe that had the directors engaged in conduct in contravention of s 229(2) or s 229(4), the shareholders of Angas Law could not release the directors from the performance of those statutory duties. Their Honours also observe, however, that in a particular case the acquiescence of the shareholders in a course of conduct by directors, "might affect the practical content of those duties" (that is arising under s 229(2) or (4)). Their Honours also observe that while, in some circumstances, the informed assent of all the shareholders to a transaction might be a fact relevant to a question of impropriety, "the provisions of s 229 creating offences operate according to their terms" [emphasis added]: at [32]. 192 The terms of s 180(1) are critical. 193 The section begins with the emphatic direction that a director or officer of the corporation must exercise their powers and discharge their duties with the degree of care and diligence required by the section. 194 The requirements of the section are not expressed to be "subject to the will of the shareholders unanimously expressed". The standard is objective and mandated. The objective standard is measured by the degree of care and diligence that a reasonable person would exercise if they were a director, in the corporation's circumstances, occupying the office held by the appellants and having the same responsibilities as the appellants. Once it is clear that the calculus engages: (a) the corporation's circumstances (including, the character of its business; the interactions it has with, in this case, retail investors; and the use of the financial model in framing financial advice to vulnerable retail investors); (b) the responsibilities of the appellants within the corporation; and (c) the extent to which a foreseeable risk of harm or jeopardy to the interests of the corporation arises, by reason of the conduct said to fall short of the standard, it is also clear that the text of s 180(1) adopts a normative objective standard of care and diligence, which goes beyond simply the interests of the shareholders. 195 Thus, conduct falling short of the standard cannot be sanctioned or ratified. 196 In other words, the shareholders cannot sanction, ratify or approve, qua themselves as directors, their own conduct in contravention of s 180. Nor can they release themselves from such a contravention. That follows because of the normative, objective, irreducible standard of care and diligence directors must live up to, as adopted by the Parliament according to the text of the section, subject to, when engaged, s 180(2), having regard to the utility of that provision in light of the jurisprudence on that topic mentioned earlier. 197 Accordingly, the circumstance that, at all material times during the period of the impugned conduct, Storm was solvent and that the appellants acted, at all times, with their own approval in their capacity as the holders of 100% of the issued shares in Storm, of their own conduct, as directors, is not an answer to the question of whether, in their capacity as directors, they failed to discharge the irreducible minimum standard required of them by s 180(1). 198 As to specific matters, the appellants contend that the finding that the consequences of discovery of the likely contraventions of s 945A(1) of the Act, "were catastrophic for Storm", was unsupported by the evidence and that the "consequences of inappropriate advice" would be catastrophic for Storm was unsupported by the evidence. 199 The primary judge found, after a careful and lengthy assessment of the evidence going to the contended conduct of the directors engaging s 180(1) and the other sections of the Act said to have been contravened by Storm, that the breaches by Storm were not merely "reasonably foreseeable" but "likely" and a "strong likelihood". The factors informing that view are identified in detail: see a discussion of the factors at [89] to [97] of these reasons. The primary judge at [774] addresses the real possibility of discovery of the likely breaches and says that the short point is that the likelihood of the breaches (and the not insignificant class of vulnerable investors affected by the conduct) was such that the breaches were "likely to be discovered at some point" and the likelihood of discovery was "a real possibility". The primary judge regarded the likelihood of discovery as something that carried with it a likely consequence of catastrophe for Storm for the reasons identified at [103] to [107] of these reasons. 200 The primary judge concluded that any reasonable director, in Storm's circumstances, occupying the office of the appellants and having the same responsibilities as the appellants, would have taken "a real possibility" of discovery of the strongly likely breaches of the Act by Storm, "extremely seriously". That follows because the foreseeable risk of harm or jeopardy to Storm, to be guarded against by the appellants, engaged the possibility of loss or suspension of the company's AFSL and a banning order. Whether the likely consequences for Storm identified as discussed at [103] to [107] of these reasons bears the character of "catastrophic consequences" for Storm or matters characterised as "extremely serious" are evaluative matters. The point is that commission of the breaches was not just reasonably foreseeable but likely and also a strong likelihood. The risk to Storm was that should ASIC discover the conduct (since it would be unlikely to be reported by the appellants), and act on it, a range of consequences might arise. 201 Those consequences would be likely to be extremely serious. 202 Discovery of the likely breaches was itself likely and a real possibility. 203 That forward-looking assessment meant that the likely consequences were very serious and should Storm lose its AFSL, potentially catastrophic. 204 Would a reasonable director, in Storm's circumstances, occupying the office of the appellants and having the same responsibilities as the appellants, run the risk of such harm or jeopardy to the company and its interests? The primary judge thought not. There was a proper basis in the evidence to reach that conclusion. It was correctly reached. The evidence of Storm's undertaking, the features of its model, its engagement with investors, the circumstances of the vulnerable investors, the assessment of the risk profiles of the investors, the role, powers, duties and responsibilities of the appellants and other matters relating to Storm's circumstances, and the position of the appellants as directors within the corporation, were comprehensively analysed by the primary judge. 205 The appellants also say that the primary judge failed to give "sufficient weight" to the following matters: first, that each of the impugned SOAs and SOAAs were provided to clients by financial advisers other than the appellants; second, the preponderance of the evidence that the financial advisers employed by Storm took into account the relevant personal circumstances of the clients; third, that Storm's practices had been reviewed by many organisations and individuals without raising concerns; fourth, that Storm had thousands of clients yet received only 10 complaints in the period from 2001 to September 2008; fifth, that there was a lack of evidence as to the extent or magnitude of the risks asserted; and sixth, the steps taken by the appellants to avoid or limit the harm to the interests of Storm contended for by ASIC. 206 As to the first matter, the primary judge took into account that financial advisers, other than the appellants, did prepare SOAs and SOAAs. However, the primary judge examined the very particular circumstances in which the appellants exercised a high degree of authority and control over Storm's activities, control over the financial plans and related matters including the control exercised over the final SOAs and SOAAs and the methodology to be deployed, in conjunction with the Storm model, in the formulation of those SOAs and SOAAs. 207 As to the second matter, the evidence in relation to the 11 vulnerable investors was that there was a failure to give such consideration to the subject matter of the advice to those investors as was reasonable in all the circumstances, and a failure to investigate the subject matter of the advice as was reasonable in all the circumstances, and also a failure to determine whether the advice was appropriate for each individual vulnerable investor having regard to a proper consideration and investigation of the subject matter of the advice, which did not occur. All of the evidence on these questions was examined. No error on the part of the primary judge is demonstrated. 208 As to the third matter, the primary judge took into account the circumstance that organisations and individuals had reviewed Storm's practices: PJ at [700] to [771]. However, as earlier indicated in these reasons, the primary judge observed that those considerations would have provided "little comfort" to conclude that the advice given by advisers to vulnerable investors in the position of the 11 investors exhibiting the characteristics described at [10] of these reasons, was appropriate. Fundamentally, that conclusion of "little comfort" from reviews by others of the model, followed because "any approval or absence of warning [from such persons] came from others who had far more limited knowledge of, and far more limited access to, the Storm model, Storm's clients, and the application of the Storm model to its clients than Mr or Mrs Cassimatis": PJ at [700]. 209 As to the fourth matter, the primary judge took into account the circumstance, over time, that there had been relatively few complaints about the provision of financial advice by Storm having regard to the use of the Storm model. 210 As to the fifth matter, the question for the primary judge was the question already discussed extensively in these reasons. That is, whether the conduct giving rise to the contraventions was likely; whether that conduct gave rise to a foreseeable risk of harm or jeopardy to be guarded against by a reasonable director, in Storm's circumstances, occupying the office of the appellants and having the same responsibilities of the appellants; whether there was a likelihood of the likely breaches being discovered; and the character of the consequences should likely discovery, of the strong likelihood of the breaches, occur. 211 As to the sixth matter, the primary judge expressly addresses the steps the appellants took to avoid or limit the risk of harm to the interests of Storm as contended for by ASIC, as to which see the discussion at [107] and [108] of these reasons, and the references to the observations of the primary judge. 212 No error on the part of the primary judge is demonstrated as to these grounds. 213 For all of these reasons, grounds 2 to 6 of the appeal must be dismissed. 214 As to grounds 7 and 8, I have had the benefit of reading the judgment of Thawley J and I agree with the conclusions his Honour reaches about those grounds. 215 Accordingly, it follows that the appeal must be dismissed with costs. I certify that the preceding 215 (two hundred and fifteen) numbered paragraphs are a true copy of the Reasons for Judgment herein of the Honourable Justice Greenwood