(c) Apprehended bias
29 As noted above, the Minister's public remarks over the radio concerning Mr Zaburoni's case provided the foundation for his claim of apprehended bias. A recording of the relevant parts of the interviews was played to both the primary judge and the Full Court.
30 In the course of the first interview, on 21 April 2016, the Minister discussed the following topics with a Mr Ray Hadley - the gaoling of a person convicted of people smuggling; the stopping of a boat by the Sri Lankan navy and Australia's arrangements with Sri Lanka concerning that activity; the deportation of a non-citizen who had been convicted of the manslaughter of a police officer; an Irish national who had been convicted of assault; and domestic politics (particularly in Queensland). Following the discussion concerning the man convicted of manslaughter of the police officer, the Minister made the following remarks (noting that, to give a more accurate picture of the Minister's comments, the primary judge amended the verbatim transcript to indicate by the words "(ah)" and "(um)" where the Minister paused in his remarks):
Mr Dutton: Well, Ray, (ah) firstly, it's (ah) it's a good thing (ah) that (ah) these people have gone. Our community is a safer place for not having these criminals (ah) walking around amongst us. So the work we're doing, (ah) and we've spoken about it a lot over the course of the last 12 months, a lot of work we're doing in cancelling visas of people who are here as non-citizens, they commit crimes and our numbers are up by hundreds of percent over the last 12 months. (ah) I'm really proud that we've been able to (ah) kick out some pretty serious criminals, who I think would have reoffended.
Now, the difficulty, of course, is (ah) that we've got a generous legal system, there's lots of (ah) pro bono work around, lawyers that (ah) do work for free in this area and the Commonwealth spends millions of dollars each year. In fact I think I'm the most litigated person in the Commonwealth, (ah) the Minister for Immigration gets sued all the time, (ah) we get injuncted and we fight these cases. (ah) In the end, (ah) in many of them we're successful and that's been the case in relation to this matter. (ah) This person has gone back and good riddance really, I think we're a better place without them.
31 Later in the interview, following discussion of issues concerning the Irish national who could not be located, the following exchange occurred:
Mr Dutton: Well Ray, (ah) it's hard again to talk about individual cases until they're finalised, but (ah) many people will come on a tourist visa, (ah) some may come on a working visa, they may come on a partner visa. (ah) So we obviously have millions of people moving across our borders each year and we scrutinise (ah) applications as best we can (ah) within the law. We do a lot of work with intelligence and law enforcement agencies, (ah) but some people come across our borders (ah) who are intent on doing the wrong thing and (ah) in these cases (ah) we work with the police authorities to try and track (ah) individuals down and there are different ways in which we can try and locate people and (ah) if it's (ah) possible, and very quickly, cancel their visas and deport them.
So it will depend on the individual (ah) circumstances, to what visa they came on but (um) we have pretty significant powers under the Migration Act to cancel visas of people that have committed crimes or that have done the wrong thing by Australians.
Mr Hadley: Now, in relation to this bloke, one would imagine he probably got some sort of work visa or holiday visa. Once he's caught, served the 12 months, it would almost be a fait accompli, you'd just pack him off, wouldn't you?
Mr Dutton: If there's a 12 month (ah) sentence, then it'll be an automatic (ah) revocation of his visa because he fails the character test. If he's (ah) involved in a (ah) motorcycle gang, (ah) if he's a child sex offender, there are a number of ways (ah) in which and, you know, we've cancelled over I think almost about eleven hundred in the last 12 months from memory - so a pretty significant number and again I want to ramp that number up over the next year.
(um) And I think this has been one of the really significant achievements (ah) of this government; we've been able to make our society a safer place and that's what getting control of our borders is about. (ah) We want to welcome people that want to come here, spend money, do business, (ah) we want to welcome them in record numbers, but (ah) we want to at the same time cancel visas of people that aren't going to do the right thing.
32 The final exchange in the first interview relating to Mr Zaburoni's case was as follows:
Mr Hadley: Okay, just one final one; this circus acrobat that we have spoken about previously, Godfrey Zaburoni. The High Court upheld the appeal, which I can't understand, that he didn't deliberately or intentionally infect his former partner with HIV despite the fact that he had unprotected sex with her and she didn't know he was HIV positive. He is now going to be resentenced. He has already been in for three years and it is obvious that, come I think Friday or early next week, he will be released. He got an Australian visa 16 years ago. What do you do with him? Can he be sent back to Zimbabwe from whence he came?
Mr Dutton: Well I don't, again, I don't want to prejudice a case, but this guy (ah) on what I, on what I've seen publicly is just a grub from start to finish. And (ah) I think we need to have a very close look (ah) at this case with the police. We will wait and see what happens with sentencing and all of the rest of it. But people, again, without commenting on an individual case, if you look at (ah) these sort of facts in a case it (ah) it makes it pretty compelling for us to cancel visas but I want to have a look at it (ah, um) in detail because (ah) we'll see what options are there and again, (um) we don't want people of bad character here. We want to welcome with open arms good people who visit our country, (ah) but we are going to continue to clampdown very hard on criminals and people who really do a great deal of harm to people in the Australian society.
Mr Hadley: I don't expect you to put yourself at odds with the High Court and nor would I. BUT I would simply repeat what I said before. When they upheld his appeal, finding he didn't intentionally infect his former partner with HIV, given he knew that he had HIV, didn't tell her he had HIV, had unprotected sex with her, I don't know where intentional doesn't form part of what the High Court should be all about. I was just stunned by the decision, I can't believe the decision.
Mr Dutton: Yeah, look mate, I, I think (ah) people will make their own judgements when they look at (ah) these cases and no doubt they can provide their feedback (ah) to wherever it might be; the courts or wherever else (ah) but (ah) you and I get into trouble all the time for talking about court cases, where we're completely (ah) at odds with, (um) you know, just, just disbelieving of outcomes. But (um) look I (ah) I think (ah) this case is obviously still before the courts, so let's hope, (ah) let's hope it's a sensible outcome.
33 The Minister participated in a second radio interview with the same interviewer on 9 June 2016. The following conversation occurred in respect of another person who had been convicted of child sex offences and was liable to have his visa cancelled, but in the course of the conversation reference was made to Mr Zaburoni:
Mr Dutton: Yeah well Ray, you'll remember (um) over a number of (ah) interviews we've discussed (ah) the changes that we've made to the legislation which makes it easier for (ah) the Minister of the day to cancel visas (ah) on a character basis. So if people fail [the] character test we can cancel their visas and send them back to their country of origin. Now, this person will be automatically cancelled under the character provisions, (ah) will be taken into immigration detention and then deported.
Obviously there's a review process that they can go through and appeal and (ah) whatever legal opportunities are open to them, but, (ah) there's an automatic cancellation for people that have been convicted of child sex offences and (ah) indeed over (ah) the period that (ah) that I've been Minister I think we've (ah) cancelled (ah) the visas of almost 60 people that've been charged with rape and sexual offences (ah) and (ah) and we're looking through lots of cases, working with the police, (ah) to cancel more because we, we will save future victims and we will prevent crime from happening by deporting these people. They're here as guests of our country, they're non-citizens and if they commit these sorts of heinous crimes they can expect to have their visas cancelled and to be deported.
Mr Hadley: Now the other one I've spoken about is a Gold Coast circus performer found guilty of intentionally infecting his girlfriend with HIV, 37-year-old Godfrey Zaburoni, diagnosed with HIV in 1998 when he was performing with a touring circus in Adelaide. He was then sentenced to nine years in gaol in 2013, but, inexplicably, the High Court overturned that decision back in April saying he didn't intentionally infect the girl despite the fact she didn't know he was HIV positive. Last week he was re-sentenced to five years imprisonment for the lesser charge then released immediately because he'd been in gaol for three years and two months. I know you've been looking at whether Zaburoni will face deportation back to his native Zimbabwe, have you made a decision on him?
Mr Dutton: (ah) Ray, I haven't (ah) as yet because (ah) the Department obviously is going through the process at the moment and it (ah) imagine there's a (ah) there's a lot of (ah, ah) legal questions that need to be answered and the process is that a (ah) a notice would be served and then there's an appeal period and (ah) I'm a decision maker in relation to that particular case so I don't want to publicly comment on it, but (um) suffice to say (ah) I've followed the case very carefully, very closely, and (ah) I have a (ah) a very low tolerance (ah) frankly for people who are (ah) committing serious sexual offences against women, against children, against anyone and I think we've demonstrated (ah) over the last 12 months that we have been (ah) tough, within the law, to cancel visas (ah) wherever possible and deport people at record numbers and I'm waiting on this matter to come up (ah) to make (ah) to make a determination, but
Mr Hadley: Okay.
Mr Dutton: (ah) I'll be able to report back to you at some time soon.
34 After considering relevant authorities such as Minister for Immigration and Multicultural and Indigenous Affairs v Jia Legeng [2001] HCA 17; 205 CLR 507 (Jia Legeng) and Isbester v Knox City Council [2015] HCA 20; 255 CLR 135, the primary judge identified the relevant test for apprehended bias to be applied in this case at [72] as:
… whether a fair-minded lay observer, informed of the discretion the Minister is called upon to exercise personally under s 501(2) of the Migration Act, might form the view (based on what the Minister said in the context of the two interviews broadcast on radio and the time in the decision-making process at which he said it) that the Minister might be so committed to a conclusion as to the exercise of his discretion in Mr Zaburoni's case that his mind would not be open to persuasion by evidence and arguments submitted by or on behalf of Mr Zaburoni.
35 The primary judge rejected Mr Zaburoni's submission that Jia Legeng is primarily a case dealing with actual bias, not apprehended bias and, therefore, had little relevance to Mr Zaburoni's case. Her Honour also rejected Mr Zaburoni's claims that the Minister's comments in his case were of a different quality from those of a previous Minister in Jia Legeng and that another significant difference was that the Minister's remarks in Mr Zaburoni's case occurred before Mr Zaburoni was aware of the Minister's intention to cancel his visa and before he had an opportunity to make submissions against that course.
36 The primary judge acknowledged that some of the Minister's remarks were "highly disapproving of Mr Zaburoni" and that the strength of some of his remarks gave "cause for a relevantly informed reasonable lay observer to conclude that Mr Zaburoni's task to persuade the Minister to exercise his discretion in Mr Zaburoni's favour was likely to be difficult". However, her Honour concluded at [81] that she did not accept that the Minister's remarks indicated a misunderstanding of his task under s 501(2) or revealed a mind which was not open to persuasion. Her Honour adopted and applied the observations of Gleeson CJ and Gummow J in Jia Legeng at [102] that the Minister was entitled to make public comments about a matter in respect of which he may consider exercising his powers without giving rise to an apprehension of bias.
37 The primary judge also rejected Mr Zaburoni's claims of apprehended bias based upon the Minister's broadcast remarks on 9 June 2016. Although her Honour was troubled by the strength and appropriateness of some of the Minister's remarks if they were viewed in isolation, her Honour concluded that the matters raised by Mr Zaburoni were insufficient to conclude that the Minister had either misconceived his statutory task under s 501(2) or that his mind was closed when he made those remarks.