32 As mentioned, the notes on this interview are annexed to the submission. They record, inter alia, the following answers by the appellant to questions:
· He saw his wife "every couple of weeks" and his children "once every 2 or 3 weeks".
· It was "very hard on my wife to cope with 3 kids. I have to help her. When [my family] come to see me they are alright. But when its time to go, my daughter doesn't want to go. I can't go. Even if [they] deport me, I will do everything in my power to come back. [I] personally wouldn't be affected. But my boys and daughter [would be] ... ."
33 The submission then addressed the "Primary Considerations" bearing on the exercise of the Ministerial discretion, turning first to the "Protection of the Australian Community" and commencing with "seriousness and nature of conduct". It noted that the appellant's offences were listed as "very serious" in the terms of Ministerial Direction No. 21. Paragraph 2.7 of that Direction stated that the sentence imposed for a crime is "an indication of the seriousness of the offender's conduct against the community", so that "due regard" should be had to the extent of the criminal record, including the number and nature of offences, the time between offences, the time that has elapsed since the last offence and the "repugnance" of the crime. It noted that crimes involving violence against "defenceless" persons are "especially repugnant to the whole community".
34 The submission referred to the reasons of the Court of Criminal Appeal given on 13 May 1998, previously mentioned, in which Simpson J said:
"... [M]aterial in relation to the firearms offences ... came to light because on 22 February 1997 the [appellant's] wife reported to police incidents of domestic violence by the [appellant]. Police arrested him in response to those complaints ... He admitted possession of the firearms and led police to a bush area where he had secreted two guns, together with a small amount of ammunition ... ."
35 The submission also quoted comments of Simpson J to the effect that the appellant was released on bail, and was still on bail when arrested on 13 May 1997 and charged with breaking, entering and committing a felony in circumstances of special aggravation on 9 May 1997, as described earlier in these reasons.
36 According to the submission, Simpson J also said:
"Before moving to the subjective features it is significant to note three significant aggravating factors. The [appellant] had a substantial criminal record. Of most significance were convictions for assault, malicious damage, possession and supply of prohibited drugs and, importantly, three earlier offences, committed in 1991, of possession of shortened firearms, another of possession of a prohibited weapon, and another for possession of counterfeit currency."
37 The submission also noted that Simpson J (McInerney and Studdert JJ concurring), having emphasised "the serious nature of the circumstances of aggravation", was of the view that an appropriate sentence in relation to that charge was a total term of penal servitude of seven and a half years. The submission concluded that, on the basis of the appellant's criminal history, it was open to the Minister to find that his conduct against the community was "very serious".
38 The submission mentioned that at interview, the appellant put forward the following by way of mitigation:
"Guys that I worked for supplied me with drugs ... . When I came out [of gaol] they wanted money that I owed them before. I didn't have money.
They threatened to come after my kids and wife ... so I went upstairs and got my gun. I broke into their house and waited for them. When they got home, I shot their roof because I didn't want to hurt them. I just wanted them to know that I wasn't scared.
When I got out of gaol the first time, I didn't want to get involved with crimes. I just wanted to get a job and be with my family."
39 The submission quoted Simpson J's mention of these mitigating factors:
"The psychological assessment discloses a particularly difficult early life in Romania. His father was a violent man who subjected the [appellant] to frequent and savage beatings. For twelve months from 1979 the [appellant] was a political prisoner in Romania and suffered torture and beatings from the prison authorities. Eventually the [appellant] and a friend escaped and made their way to Yugoslavia from which he came to Australia."
40 The submission noted that the Probation and Parole Service's pre-release report, dated 4 February 2002, stated:
"[The appellant] blamed part of this offence as the result [of] anti depressant medication that he was taking prior to the commission of this current offence. In addition, he claims that he was approached by a group of men demanding money from him. The money was reportedly owed to these men in relation to the importation of drugs. As he was in gaol and unable to repay the money, he claimed that they threatened to harm his family. It is noted that other legal documents do not reflect this. He says that he is sorry for his children, but he claimed that 'it is part of survival'. It appears that the relationship with his wife is still fragile and his contrition is partially related to his children only."
41 Turning next to whether there was any risk of recidivism, the submission mentioned the appellant's convictions between 1985 - 1989, which included offences of "Possess Prohibited Drug, Goods in Custody, Possess Heroin, Assault (Female), Malicious Damage, Possess Prohibited Article".
42 According to the submission, at interview, the appellant stated, regarding his rehabilitation, that he had "grown up a lot" and was "a lot wiser" and "more settled". He had said that he had seen the psychologist "a couple of times, but I know I'm not crazy. I did stupid things before. When you're young you think it's OK. But with age it's different".
43 The submission noted that, according to the pre-release report, since his return to custody, the appellant had "incurred the following offences dated from 28/9/97 to 27/7/00: Insulting language, Fighting, Abusive language, Threatening Behaviour x 2, Assaults and Fighting."
44 The pre-release report further stated:
"[The appellant's] positive changes in attitudes and behaviour at this centre appears satisfactory. To his credit he has improved his work and industry performance. However, his improved level of self control ... and maturity has neither [been] sustained for any significant length of time nor tested in the community. When considering ... parole, there [are] some concerns about the [appellant's] ability to adapt to normal lawful life in the community. He seems agitated about the necessity for him to seek a professional opinion when released to the community."
45 The pre-release report added:
"... Of concern, he indicates that his associates claimed that he owes them for the amount of $100,000 for drug use prior to this sentence. Furthermore, if they approached him after his release, demanding ... money 'he will kill them'. The [appellant's] wife indicated that the family is not at risk and felt ... that the [appellant's] associates are currently in custody."
46 Noting that, although provided with a copy of the pre-release report and invited to comment, the appellant "opted" not to do so, the submission stated, "[i]n consideration of the above factors, it is open to you to find that [the appellant] is at a high risk of recidivism".
47 The submission then addressed the issue of "General deterrence", as (citing Ministerial Direction No. 21 ) "an important factor" in this context. After noting the nature of the offences committed by the appellant, the submission stated that it was "open" to the Minister to find that cancellation "would serve as a deterrence factor against others committing similar offences. The Government has a strong interest in deterring others from committing offences of this nature".
48 The submission next addressed "The Expectations of the Australian Community", as required by Ministerial Direction No. 21. The submission stated that, since the appellant's offences were considered by Government to be "very serious … it is open for you to find that … the Australiancommunity may expect that [the appellant] should be removed from Australia."
49 Turning then to "The Best Interests of the Children", the submission noted that Art 3.1 of the Convention on the Rights of the Child ("CROC") required that those interests be "a primary consideration".
50 The submission cited these observations from the pre-release report:
"[The appellant's] wife remains supportive throughout this sentence and visits occasionally due to the family's lack of financial resources. Discussions with her indicate that their children are looking forward to their father's release and added that she has no fear of her husband returning home ... . It appears the [appellant's] wife has mixed feelings of her husband returning home, for in another conversation she stated that her husband has not changed his behaviour and he would need ongoing counselling upon his release. When marriage counselling was discussed with the [appellant's] wife, she indicated that she does not need counselling and the [appellant] is the one with the anger problem."
51 The submission also quoted comments made by the appellant at interview, some of which have been mentioned above, including -
"[My children] said they will come with me, but I can't do that to them. They will have to start over and it will be hard ... . Personally, I don't care. But it's my kids that Immigration must think about."
52 The submission also quoted the appellant's wife as saying at interview on 28 February 2002 -
"Currently, I'm at home. My two boys are mentally delayed so I need to take care of them ... . The children won't cope well. They are counting down the weeks until he returns."
53 As mentioned, the notes of the appellant's wife's interview were annexed to the submission. The notes record, inter alia, that she stated that her marriage was "fine" and that the appellant "will never leave me"; that (as mentioned above) "the children ... are counting down the weeks until he returns"; but that she would not live with him if deported to Romania, since she was a qualified accountant and "if [the appellant] was at home [in Australia] I could go out and work and bring in more money than he could".
54 Under the heading "Any other special factors to be considered" the notes record that the appellant's wife stated, "My children would be affected. I need help with the kids." At interview, she also said that the appellant "still needs counselling. He has a problem with anger management. … [but] he's getting older and better ... ."
55 Also annexed to the submission was, as has been noted, Mr Hudd's psychological assessment dated 10 October 1997. In that assessment, obtained for sentencing purposes in connection with his 1997 offences, Mr Hudd said that the first signs of the appellant's "aggressive and violent behaviour" occurred shortly after he and his wife began living together. The appellant would become "uncontrollably angry" for seemingly the slightest reason and then become depressed and sullen. He began to drink excessively, "in excess of a bottle [of whiskey] a day.".
56 Mr Hudd expressed the opinion that the appellant "is suffering from Complex Chronic Post Traumatic Stress Disorder ("PTSD"). The complexity of his conditionarises from his abuse as a child, his torture in the Romanian [gaol] and in particular the part his uncle played in his treatment and his escape from Romania".
57 Mr Hudd added:
"... [The appellant] told me that he often has flashbacks to his time being beaten by his father and by the officers in the Romanian [gaol], and continued to have intrusive visions of his uncle looking on. He also told me that he sometimes has violent and disturbing nightmares but at present they are not as bad as they have been in the past. Although some of these experiences appear to be [cured] by his present conditions it needs to be noted that they were present prior to his incarceration in 1989. When I asked him why he had not told anyone about the extent of his experience[s] in Romania previously he said that no one had ever asked him about them.
The presen[ce] of this condition combined with the frustration of his inability to find employment and his lack of English language skills could explain the behaviour that brought him before the court in 1989 and to court on this occasion."
Amongst other options, Mr Hudd recommended expert PTSD counselling.
58 On the issue of the children's best interests, the submission concluded -
"It is submitted that the best interests of [the appellant's] three children would be served if their father remain in Australia.
It is open to you to find from the information given that the cancellation of [the appellant's] visa and his removal from Australia would have a detrimental effect on his Australian born children."
59 Noting that Ministerial Direction No. 21 adverted to "Other Considerations", the submission noted the appellant's comments at interview that the Romanian Government would not provide him with resettlement assistance and the appellant's wife's comments that she would not accompany the appellant if he were deported. With respect to these comments, the submission stated:
"... It is reasonable to assume that ... cancellation ... would cause considerable hardship for [the appellant's] family in Australia."
60 The submission again considered Art 3.1 of CROC stating -
"Romania is party to the CROC. We have been advised that the CROC does not impose an absolute obligation on Australia to allow a child to come to or remain in Australia where that child has no right otherwise to do so. However, in the case of family reunification, the CROC requires Australia to deal with those cases in a positive, humane and expeditious manner.
[The appellant] has maintained that he is unable to leave Australia due to his family commitments. He states that his wife requires his assistance to care for his intellectually disabled sons and that his absence thus far has had an adverse effect on their mental health. However, his files state that while on parole he threatened to kill his wife with a hand gun (sic) in front of his children. He has also continued to display a propensity for violence whilst in prison, while also refusing to undertake rehabilitation. Notwithstanding this fact, it may be in the best interests of the child to have their father residing in Australia either with them or nearby."
61 Finally, the submission concluded, with reference to an assessment annexed to it, that if the appellant were returned to Romania, Australia would not be in breach of the Refugee Convention, the Convention Against Torture or the ICCPR.