The reference to "the evidence you've given today" can only be a reference to the questions he was asked and the answers he gave. As regards creation of such a transcript, however, the Deputy Registrar informed Mr Key that "everything we say in this Court is being taped" and would be "later transcribed", pointing out the need for him to "articulate a response for the tape", which he acknowledged. Taken together, the Deputy Registrar's indication at the start of the examination that "everything we say in Court" would be taped and "later transcribed" and her direction at the end that "you sign a transcript of the evidence you've given today" carry within them an unmistakeable message as to the procedure to be followed at and following the examination. The reference to taping for later transcription indicated that, with the Deputy Registrar's concurrence, the questions asked and answers given in the examination over which she was presiding were to be captured in a form capable of being converted into a written record and that such a record was to be made. And the reference to signing a "transcript" of "the evidence you've given today" confirmed that such a written record of the questions and answers was to be made.
24 Having regard to the concepts elucidated in Radju and Phan, I am satisfied that the Deputy Registrar gave consideration to the matters with which s.597(13) is concerned. There was no overt reference to that statutory provision but there was overt reference to the two matters contemplated by it, being creation of a written record of questions and answers and the imposition of a requirement to sign the record. Particularly pertinent, as Mr Lockhart of counsel submitted on behalf of the applicants, is the point that, apart from s.597(13), there is no provision of legislation and no general law principle that could ground the requirement with respect to signing that was imposed by the Deputy Registrar and followed up by the letter requiring Mr Key to attend at the registry to sign.
25 By proceeding as she did, the Deputy Registrar caused the examination to be conducted in the manner contemplated by s.597(13). This, as I say, is borne out particularly by the express direction regarding signing of the transcript. The Deputy Registrar must, in my view, be taken to have intended to proceed, and to cause the examination to be conducted, in an overall manner that warranted the explicit direction actually made as to signing of a written record by the examinee. Part of that overall manner was, by necessary implication, that such a written record be brought into existence. It may thus be inferred that the explicit statement at the beginning as to taping of everything that was said for later transcription, coupled with the reference at the end to signing of the transcript, amounted to a procedural direction that the questions and answers be tape-recorded and later transcribed.
26 That procedural direction was, in my view, an "order" of the kind referred to in s.597(13), at least by necessary implication. In general, orders of a court are directed to a person and require the person to do or refrain from doing something. When s.597(13) says that the court "may order" that the questions and answers "be recorded in writing", it does not necessarily contemplate an order in that sense. It may, but often will not, mean some person is to be commanded by the court to make the written record upon pain of contempt for failing to do so. The concept under s.597(13) (as under the Jury Act provisions considered in the cases I have mentioned) is much more likely to be, in a given case, a concept of the court's specifying that a particular method of proceeding is to be adopted and followed. I am satisfied that, in the present case, the Deputy Registrar turned her mind to the question of the appropriate method of proceeding and specified the method described in s.597(13).
27 As was said in Wu, Radju and Pham, it is obviously preferable that courts make orders in express and explicit terms. That observation applies with equal force in the present context. It appears from the material before me that registrars of the court adopt a standard formula as reflected by what was said at the beginning and end of Mr Key's examination. That formula does not seem to contemplate discussion of the question whether any written record of the examination is to be made by or under the auspices of the court and, if so, whether it is to be made under or separately from s.597(13). I refer again, in that connection, to what was said by Drummond J in a passage in his judgment in Southern Cross Airlines Holdings Ltd v Arthur Andersen & Co (1998) 28 ACSR 455 quoted in my earlier judgment:
"It can be seen that Byrne J did not give any direction that a transcript be kept of the examination, although it is apparent that it was the intention of the liquidator, and the understanding of the judge, as reflected in his orders, that a transcript would be made. Pt 5.9 Div 1 the Corporations Law does not contain any general provision that deals with the making of a transcript of the examination. Section 597(13) empowers the court to make an order for the making of a special kind of transcript, ie, one recorded in writing and signed by the examinee, and s 597(14) regulates the admissibility in any legal proceedings against the examinee of that special transcript and also "any transcript of an examination of a person that is authenticated as provided by the rules", ie, by the transcript recorder or by any person present at the examination. See r 81(2) the Corporations (Queensland) Rules 1993. A person over whom the liquidator has no control, eg, the judicial officer before whom the examination is conducted, can therefore authenticate a transcript not specially ordered under s 597(13), with the result that it will be admissible in evidence in any legal proceedings brought by anyone against the examinee. The transcripts here in question were prepared pursuant to a private arrangement between the liquidator and the State Reporting Bureau. In my opinion, Pt 5.9 Div 1 leaves it to the person conducting the examination to determine whether a transcript of the examination is to be kept, in the absence of the court exercising its powers under s 597(13). In deciding whether to have a transcript made, the examiner will no doubt be guided by the wishes of the liquidator or other person at whose behest the examination was ordered."
28 Because of the different rules, as to rights of inspection, applicable to different forms of written records of Part 5.9 examinations and the discretionary nature of s.597(13), it is desirable that the judicial officer presiding at an examination should, at the outset, invite submissions as to appropriate orders and directions on those matters from the examinee, the person upon whose application the examination summons was issued and any person who exercises the s.597(5A) right to take part in the examination. Explicit orders and directions should be made in the light of any such submissions and in a way that leaves no doubt about the status of any transcript or record for the purposes of the relevant statutory provisions.
29 In the present case, however, the matter was as I have described and the applicants have made out their case for the grant of declaratory relief, although it is preferable that the declaration be in a more particular form than that sought. I make the following declaration:
Declare that the transcripts of the examinations on 22 and 25 October 2004 in these proceedings of Peter William Keys, Herbert Ralph Moll and Mark Carl Langbein, being transcripts signed by them respectively and held in the court's file, are written records of those examinations made under s.597(13) of the Corporations Act 2001 (Cth).
30 I order that the liquidator pay the applicants' costs of the application, such costs being an expense of the winding up.
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