13 Firstly, there were loans that the respondent obtained from his father in various amounts between 27 November 1989 and 25 July 1990, totalling $81,351.50. His evidence was that he was contemplating bankruptcy and had borrowed all he could on the shopping development. He had sold two properties including his own home to fund it. He spoke to his father, who undertook to provide him with finance to keep the venture afloat. The loans of various amounts were made (inter alia) to enable him to pay his creditors. His father told him that he could repay the loans at his leisure. His father initially borrowed $50,000 on overdraft from Westpac Bank to enable him to make the advances, the overdraft being increased subsequently. The respondent undertook to his father that he would pay him interest on the loans equivalent to bank overdraft interest, which banks capitalised monthly. Because his father was in need, the respondent repaid $37,589.35 on 15 August 1997. Apart from that repayment, no payments by way of capital or interest were made by the respondent prior to the trial. His calculations of what remained owing to his father at that time were not challenged, as I understand it. Each month the amount owing increased because of interest, which was capitalised, and after allowing for the part-repayment on 15 August 1997, the total outstanding at the time of the trial in July 2000 was $278,357.88. In March 1993 it had been $132,323.23. It was never less than that and after 1995 it exceeded $200,000 at all times.