Credibility of Mr Baptist
50 Mr Baptist's credit was also attacked. It was contended that I should not accept his denial of the conversation with Mr Poulos in May and Mr Marzouk in August. Overall I did not regard the cross examination of Mr Baptist as damaging to him but in relation to the conversation with Mr Marzouk in August I was left in some doubt as to his veracity as I shall endeavour to explain. I also thought he was somewhat evasive in answering questions to do with his connection with Mr Poulos (involving a personal investment of Mr Baptist): see T196 - T197.
51 As at August 2008 the only plan for something other than a full refinance by another bank advanced by SMS was that by which SMS sought a further $5.45 million: see Exhibit A1: TB195 - 196. The Bank in clear terms rejected that by its letter of 27 August 2008: see Exhibit A1: TB199. SMS has produced no evidence of any approval by a bank of a partial refinance in August 2008 and Mr Marzouk, in his alleged conversation with Mr Baptist, gives no details. Mr Baptist accepted that Mr Marzouk did say "give me a partial discharge of the Company and release those assets that you want paid off and I will refinance with another bank" and that his response was as set out in [22] above. Mr Baptist seemed to accept at T244 that there was a lack of clarity in what he said to Mr Marzouk.
52 If that was his response it was anodyne, and Mr Rayment accepted that it could not be regarded as unreasonable. Mr Rayment, however, submitted that Mr Baptist's evidence that that is what he said should not be accepted. Cross examination of Mr Baptist undermined Mr Baptist's credibility on this point as he asserted that the words set out at [22] were a response to a request that the Bank release security without having received payment of the outstanding debt on the relevant property: see T241 - T242, but then agreed that he had not understood Mr Marzouk to be saying that: see T243.40.
53 Further, Mr Baptist said at para 53(b) of his first affidavit "It was never my intention to allow partial repayment" and at para 26 of his affidavit of 2 June 2009 when dealing with Mr Poulo's affidavit of 29 May 2009, he said:
"I have reviewed the affidavit of Mr Poulos dated 29 May 2009. I am certain that I never had the conversation with Mr Poulos described in paragraph 8 of his affidavit. If the plaintiff had formally proposed to the defendant that it reduce its loan facilities and receive a discharge of some part of the security held by the bank, the bank would have considered that request. At a minimum, the defendant would have needed to know (a) how much the facility would be reduced, (b) what security the plaintiff proposed to have discharged and (c) the time frame involved. The defendant would have required any reduction of part of the facility to be implemented together with a plan for the overall reduction of the entire facility. Because no such proposal was ever made to the defendant, it was never considered."
54 The matters to which Mr Baptist refers in para 26 of his affidavit are matters that I accept would be necessary items of information to be provided. The second last sentence is a statement as to the Bank's attitude to partial refinancing - i.e. that unless the partial refinancing was part of a full refinancing the Bank would not agree to it. This and the comment at para 53(b) come close to the position that Mr Marzouk asserts was communicated to him, although in less colourful language.
55 In one sense, the factual contest about what Mr Baptist and Mr Poulos said becomes less important because by paras 26 and 53(b), Mr Baptist makes clear the Bank's position. Given the unreliability of Mr Marzouk and Mr Poulos I am not satisfied that there was any request for partial refinancing in May. Insofar as August is concerned, the position is more difficult particularly given the unreliability of SMS's witnesses and my doubt as to whether any partial refinancing was ever seriously in prospect, but I shall proceed on the basis that Mr Marzouk asked about partial refinancing and that Mr Baptist said words to the effect:
"Not unless the partial refinancing is part of a program of full refinancing."
recognising that neither he nor Mr Marzouk asserts that that was said by him, but also recognising that the statements he makes in his affidavit is a reflection of the Bank's position. The Bank's entitlement to take such a position in the circumstances can then be considered.