3.11 The period from 31 January 2015 to 2 February 2015
103 On 31 January 2015, Mr Reurich went to the Club with Boofhead. Mr Brooks informed Mr Reurich that he, but not Boofhead, could come in. Mr Reurich left feeling disappointed as, having waited until what he considered to be the end of the suspension period, he was looking forward to returning to the Club. He did not want to spend time there without Boofhead. Mr Brooks does not recall this conversation but I accept that Mr Reurich attended the Club on 31 January 2015, believing the suspension period had ended, and had a conversation with Mr Brooks as he recalled.
104 On 1 February 2015 Mr Reurich returned to the Club with Boofhead. On that occasion he had a conversation with Mr Feeney to the following effect:
Mr Feeney: Your dog can't come in.
Mr Reurich: He is a service animal, that is discrimination.
Mr Feeney: He can't come in. You're liable to be barred again.
Mr Reurich: On what basis?
Mr Feeney: Because you are on the premises illegally with your petition. And also because of aggression.
Mr Feeney can vaguely recall having a conversation to this effect.
105 On 2 February 2015 Mr Reurich once again went to the Club. On that occasion he had a conversation with Mr Ohlston to the following effect:
Mr Reurich: They barred me. And now they say they'll let me in but not the dog. By law, you know that I'm allowed to take my dog in.
Mr Ohlston: Yes, if it meets certain criteria.
Mr Reurich: What's the certain criteria?
Mr Ohlston: Well, one is that it must be clean.
Mr Reurich: Well are you saying he's dirty, still, now?
Mr Ohlston: Well, doesn't look dirty to me.
Mr Reurich: Well, he hasn't been any different from day one to how he is now.
Mr Ohlston: There's other criteria too. He must never leave your side
Mr Reurich: If I tell him to stay somewhere, he stays there. I go to the bar, or the toilet, and he stays there. He's not a problem. And I'm happy to do that.
Mr Ohlston: Well, again, I've heard that you leave him in a room and go away.
Mr Reurich: No, that's not true at all. I've left him sitting there when I go to the bar or the toilet, or get my money to get my raffle. There's nothing wrong with that.
Mr Ohlston: There have been reports about your behaviour.
Mr Reurich: My behaviour? How is my behaviour wrong when I'm asking them to accept the fact that they're breaking the law? Which they were.
Mr Ohlston: I think it's the manner in which you go about it. You're abusing people.
Mr Reurich: That's not true, I never shout at anybody ever. JC accused me of swearing. I definitely did not swear. He tried to use that to throw me out of the Club as well.
Mr Reurich pointed to the letter dated 24 January 2015 from mindDog which he said was near Mr Ohlston and the conversation, which was partially recorded and which was in the Agreed Transcript, continued as follows:
Mr Reurich: I would eat nothing, he told me I had to spend money. That was years ago, forget that, this is now, I took the dog in, they let me in the door, everything's good, I sat in there like I do now, he come up and accused me of him not being a seeing eye dog, and I said no he's not but he's service dog, he's entitled to be here.
Gave him my card and he ran off with it. I didn't give it to him. I showed it to him, and he's grabbed it and took off with it. When I asked for it back ten minutes later because I was scared he was going to cut it up, he held it away from me and wouldn't give it to me. I had to get it off him right. That's not good professional behaviour. Your president, I think, who's the president, that little bloke, who's that? Who's the president or was it you here that time?
Mr Ohlston: Rod Simpson.
Mr Reurich: Yeah, that same day, first question he asked me - am I a veteran as if that's got a difference to do, what difference does that make if I'm a veteran or not? Then they were looking for every excuse under the sun to stop him from being here. They couldn't find nothing. So the next three days I was allowed in, there was not a problem, he was well behaved. You can have a look at the tapes, alright.
Mr Ohlston: Mm. Alright.
Mr Reurich: So, is there a problem now or not?
Mr Ohlston: There is, in so far as it's been before the board of directors and the board of directors have said…
Mr Reurich: Have the board of directors got this letter from MindDog, well you've got the letter there, you've seen the letter haven't you? Have you read that?
Mr Ohlston: Of course I have. When it goes before the board, then they can make a decision as far as the dog goes.
Mr Reurich: But what I'm talking about, is you're talking about Club policy and I'm talking about federal law, as stated in there, can you not read? That says federal law.
Mr Ohlston: Did you read the rest of the letter too then?
Mr Reurich: Yes. And the letter says I should be allowed in the Club and this is what she's asking you to do, so have you read the rest of the letter?
Mr Ohlston: Yes.
Mr Reurich: So, in other words you're not going to let the dog in?
Mr Ohlston: Not until, not until the board makes judgment on that letter.
Mr Reurich: Okay but how come I heard, I went to the papers, right and you know that.
Mr Ohlston: Mm hmm.
Mr Reurich: And you talked to Adam.
Mr Ohlston: Mm hmm.
Mr Reurich: And you told Adam…
Mr Ohlston: No, I didn't speak to Adam
Mr Reurich: You didn't speak to Adam?
Mr Ohlston: No.
Mr Reurich: Well who spoke to Adam?
Mr Ohlston: No, not me
Mr Reurich: Somebody spoke to Adam and said if my dog was washed, he'd be allowed in the Club. Now this is after I was barred. Now, I'm only being barred, but what reason did he bar me, do you know what reason he barred me for, can you explain why he barred me?
Mr Ohlston: Initially, from what I can gather and what reports I've seen, it was the state of your dog.
106 Mr Reurich recalled that the balance of the conversation, which was not recorded, was to the following effect:
Mr Reurich: That's not why I got barred. That's why he wasn't allowed in. All your people smoke illegally. They smoke within 12 metres of the entrance of your door. They smoke, and they tell me my dog stinks!
Mr Ohlston: Well, that's personal.
Mr Reurich: I think it's a personal thing, what they've done to me. Don't you think?
Mr Ohlston: No.
Mr Reurich: They tell me that he's not allowed in because he's a trainee dog. But he's allowed to do everything as a trainee that a service dog can do. He's never messed up once, he's always behaved. Three days after he's been here, they came up and told me he's not allowed in. They were rude about it.
Mr Ohlston: I'm not sure they were rude about it. I mean, that's your word against theirs.
Mr Reurich: So they're not going to let me in.
Mr Ohlston: Not until I get that letter from the Board.
Mr Reurich: You're the boss of this club, correct?
Mr Ohlston: I carry out what the Board tells me to do. At the moment the Board says the dog's not allowed in.
Mr Reurich: What makes the Board all mighty? The law is the law. How can they override the law. Do you agree there is a law for this?
Mr Ohlston: Yes, but I'm waiting for the Board.
107 Mr Ohlston agreed that he had a conversation with Mr Reurich to the effect set out in [105]-[106] above, but said that Mr Reurich had omitted the following part of their discussion:
Mr Ohlston: I need you to understand Peter, that we do not mind having Boofhead in the Club as long as he is neat and clean and within your control. The bigger issue here Peter is that you cannot come in here and abuse people. We have to ensure that the Club is a safe place for all members and we have to ensure that the rules of membership outlined in the constitution are abided by.
Mr Reurich: But I want to come in, my dog does not smell and is very hygienic. How can you say my dog smells when there are people here who smoke and smell of smoke, they are allowed in.
Mr Ohlston: Peter until we have a board meeting to discuss this issue I can't give you any other answer. That's not personal. It's just protocol. Most things that happen at the Club need to be put before the board.
Mr Reurich: Derek you are a liar.
108 Mr Ohlston recalled that on 2 February 2015 Boofhead looked as if he had been freshly washed. Hence, when Mr Reurich asked him whether Boofhead looked dirty, he replied that he did not. Mr Ohlston said that the point he was trying to make in his discussion with Mr Reurich, as recorded at [107] above, was that initially Boofhead was not allowed into the Club because of his dirty, smelly and unkempt state and related hygiene, health and safety concerns but, once Boofhead was clean and no longer posed health and safety issues, he could come into the Club. According to Mr Ohlston, it was Mr Reurich's behaviour, being aggressive, abusive, intimidating and threatening, that was the cause of his suspension.
109 Soon after his exchange with Mr Ohlston, Mr Reurich left.
110 Mr Reurich again contacted Ms Phillips who agreed to write another letter to the Club. MindDog's letter dated 3 February 2015 to the Club included the following:
Despite my letter of 20.01.15 to club management, Peter has again been told that he is not welcome at Club Jervis Bay when accompanied by his mindDog Boofhead.
As I initially pointed out, this is an infringement of the Commonwealth Disability Discrimination Act 1992.
You may wish to acquaint yourself with the case Sheehan v Tin Can Bay Country Club 2002.
In the beginning of this unnecessary drama, Peter was told that Boofhead was dirty and smelled. It is my understanding that at a meeting with Peter on 02.02.15, the manager of the club, Derek Olsen, admitted that Boofhead did not have an odour.
This admission would indicate that the original claim by club staff that Boofhead was dirty, was simply a ploy to refuse Peter access.
Mr Olsen also pointed out that before going to the bar or the lavatory, Peter would ask Boofhead to sit and stay. This is legitimate behaviour for an assistance dog. All mindDog clients have individual needs and ways of coping with their disorder. Peter and Boofhead have worked out a process that is effective for them.
Peter simply wants to enjoy the club's facilities with his mindDog. He has the legal right to do so and has asked me to proceed with a complaint against the club in the Human Rights Commission.
111 Mr Simpson took issue with Ms Phillips' letter to the extent it suggested that Mr Reurich was refused access to the Club and discriminated against because of Boofhead. He said that Mr Reurich was asked to leave because of his abusive and threatening behaviour. While Mr Simpson accepted that he was not physically present between 26 December 2014 and 2 February 2015 to see Mr Reurich being denied access to the Club and he did not personally make the decision to suspend Mr Reurich from the Club in late December 2014 or in late January and early February 2015 not to permit him re-entry, he did not accept that he was incorrect when he said that Mr Reurich was asked to leave the Club because of his abusive and threatening behaviour.