1 HIS HONOUR: Two applications have been made involving claims for public interest immunity. They arise in connection with a subpoena issued by Mr Michael Doughty, solicitor, on behalf of one of the accused, Mohammed Omar Jamal. The subpoena is dated 1 April 2008 and is addressed to "The Proper Officer, New South Wales Crime Commission". The subpoena is very extensive. It is necessary, however, to set out only paragraphs 12 to 15 of the subpoena. They are as follows:
"12. All surveillance logs, records and/or running sheets where the accused's name is recorded for the period 8 July 2004-21 December 2005.
13. Copies of all warrants issued pursuant to Part 4 of the Listening Devices Act 1984 authorising the use of a listening device against any of the following:
(i) Mohammed Omar Jamal, 15 Punchbowl Road, Belfield NSW, and/or motor vehicle registration number ULK 830 for the period 1 July 2004-21 December 2005;
(ii) he said Auto King, Chemical Cleaning Solutions, Peter's Hardware, Padstow Station Hardware and Auto Equip for the period 1 August 2005-21 December 2005 and;
(iii) Adam Houda for the period November 2005-December 2005.
14. Copies of any search warrants issued pursuant to s 11 New South Wales Crime Commission Act 1985 authorising the search of premises at 15 Punchbowl Road, Belfield, NSW and/or motor vehicle registration number ULK 830.
15. Copies of all covert search warrants issued pursuant to Part 3 of the Terrorism (Police Powers) Act 2002 directed at 15 Punchbowl Road, Belfield, NSW and/or motor vehicle registration number ULK 830 for the period 1 January 2003-22 December 2005."
2 As I have said, there are two public interest immunity claims. It will be necessary to deal with these separately. The first claim, the one which has taken the greater burden of the Court's time, relates to material that is said to have been captured by paragraphs 12 to 15 of the subpoena. Mr Singleton, who appears for the New South Wales Crime Commission, has explained that this somewhat oblique reference to those parts of the subpoena that capture the documents the subject of the first claim for public interest immunity arises because of a need for confidentiality in relation to identifying precisely which paragraph of the subpoena had, in fact, caught the relevant documents.
3 The open claim for immunity in respect of the subject documents is contained in Exhibit "A", the affidavit of Deputy Commissioner Naguib Kaldas. Mr Kaldas exhibited the relevant documents to his affidavit and these have been admitted on a confidential basis as Exhibit "A1". The full nature of the public interest immunity claim is detailed in a second affidavit by Mr Kaldas. This has been admitted on a confidential basis as Exhibit "A2".
4 The second claim for public interest immunity arises in connection with four warrants issued pursuant to s 16 of the Listening Devices Act 1994. These were produced apparently on the basis that they fell within paragraph 13 of Mr Jamal's subpoena. The first two warrants were issued by her Honour Virginia Bell J on 22 March 2005. The remaining two warrants were issued by her Honour on 11 April 2005. The listening devices authorised the installation and use of certain devices in certain premises for various periods of time between 22 March and 1 May 2005. The copy warrants produced, however, have been redacted (or to use a more familiar English word, "edited") so as to eliminate the description of the actual listening device in each case, and to conceal the location of the premises where the device in each case was to be installed.
5 The second claim for public interest immunity relates only to the redacted material. There is no objection to the production of the copy warrants. They have been admitted as Exhibit 1. I should add that not only have the four warrants been produced in answer to the subpoena, it is also my understanding that, overall, a considerable body of other information or other documentation has been produced. The public interest immunity claims relate, however, only to the two categories I have identified.
6 I shall now identify the material in support of the second public interest immunity claim. Exhibit "C" is an open affidavit from Carlene York, the Assistant Commissioner of Police (Director, Forensic Services Group). Ms York provides evidence that no conversations were recorded as a result of the installation of the four warrants. For that reason, there is no transcript of any conversations as a result of the installation of the warrants. Public interest immunity has been claimed, however, over the redacted parts of the warrants on the basis that disclosure of the information so edited would reveal confidential police methodology. There is a second confidential affidavit (Exhibit "E"), which gives detailed reasons in support of the public interest immunity claim.
7 In view of the nature of the public interest immunity arguments, Mr Singleton very sensibly provided the Court, through the exhibits process, with the documents in respect of which production is sought to be denied. In some cases of public interest immunity, the very nature of the claim may make it undesirable that the Judge see the documents. There are, however, cases such as the present where it is helpful for the Court to be supplied with the documents in issue prior to the legal arguments taking place.