20 As to the time of death, I have earlier mentioned that the deceased was last seen alive by her daughter at about 10.30am and her body was discovered at about 1.15pm. The pool of blood on the floor underneath her body was partially congealed, suggesting to ambulance officer Wayne Lewry that the body had been in that position for some time. A witness, Ms Rebecca Stibbard, who was working in premises over the road reported hearing three or four screams which she described as female and very loud. There was also a noise of something hitting something else in the middle of the screaming. She gave various estimates of time when she heard these sounds, ranging from 10.50am to 11.20am in her statement made on the day, to 10.30am to 10.45am in a statement made a month later. However, she also indicated in the latter statement that she believed the screams were about an hour and a half before the ambulance arrived. There is evidence from the ambulance officers that a lady, who must have been Ms Stibbard, told them that she had heard screaming some 90 minutes earlier. That would make it about midday. That is the extent of the evidence as to when the death occurred. The best that can be said is that it most likely happened sometime between about 10.30am and midday.