20. In conclusion, if you find that the accused did not believe that it was necessary to do what he did to defend himself, then the Crown has made out its case, so you look at the situation the accused is dealing with. He is dealing with a man who is drunk, who was not armed with any weapon, who has the accused in a headlock. The accused has both arms free and he has martial arts expertise using arms and legs, as admitted by him in his record of interview, and you ask yourself was it necessary to take a knife, using his free hands, and stab his attacker on nine occasions.
21. You must concentrate on the accused man's state of mind - what threat he believed he faced at that time. The headlock was such that he was in real danger of being overwhelmed, and the threats made to break his neck or cause his head injuries, were not only real but were occurring at the time that he acted, and the Crown must prove that positively his state of mind was such that he did not believe it was necessary to do what he did.
22. He told police in the record of interview that he was scared, that he was shitting himself in the situation he found himself in - that he was fighting with a man who had a violent reputation, and although he was not being threatened with an iron bar he was still being threatened in the way in which he was being held. Even if you believe he was mistaken as to the threat he faced or that he [over-reacted], it must be proved that he did not believe it was necessary to act in the way he did, in order to convict him.
23. In order to determine a person's state of mind you have to draw an inference or a conclusion from the facts [as] you find them to exist. When you examine those facts, is the only inference or conclusion open, that he did not believe it was necessary to do what he did to defend himself? You must be satisfied that no other inference or conclusion is open. If you believe there is another conclusion or inference open, then the Crown has not proved its case.
24. As I said to you, if the Crown has proved to your satisfaction, having regard to all the facts you find established, that the only conclusion open is that he did not believe it is necessary to do what he did, then of course you would convict him. That has to be proved beyond reasonable doubt to your satisfaction. If you have a reasonable doubt about that then of course you must acquit him.
25. If you find the Crown has not proved the accused did not believe it was necessary to do what he did, you then move to the second way in which the Crown may prove its case, that is his belief was not based upon reasonable grounds, and you might ask what is the difference between the two? The first is that the Crown has failed to prove that it was not necessary in his mind to do what he did to defend himself. A second, if you so thought it was necessary, then although that was his view it was not based on reasonable grounds, and again we go to the issue of the circumstances that he found himself at the time of the stabbing. The prosecution must prove that it was unreasonable for him to have acted in that way. You must look at all the circumstances as indicated.
26. The Crown say that what was done was disproportionate to the threat and was not reasonable. You must take into account matters which the accused man faced. First of all, the attendance of a drunken man uninvited at the house. (2) The threat made to break his neck or cause injuries to his head. (3) The accused man in his record of interview said he was aware of the violent past of Browning. Further, there is a bad relationship between the two men. Not only does he have this awareness of his violent past. When outside he is then placed in a headlock by Browning.
27. The accused man produces a knife which he has on him and he thrashes about with that knife during this altercation. He says that he does not aim it. He inflicts some nine stab wounds front and back in this scuffle. It is said that the wounds to the back are superficial but it certainly is a serious head wound to the back of the head.
28. In his record of interview the accused says that he stopped thrashing with the knife once Browning let him go, and he says that on a number of occasions, so we are not dealing with a man who has been let go and then does some act to cause injury. The moment Browning lets him go then there is no more stabbing, and that is very clear on the evidence.
29. If you have got a pen there, if you look at passages 277 to 279 of the record of interview you will see this emerge. The passages seem to suggest clearly he just wanted to get Browning off him, and as soon as that took place he ceased using the knife and Browning left.
30. Browning admits he started the incident by grabbing the accused around the neck. He has him in a headlock and at question 74 Hendy states, "He's got me in a headlock, that's when I pulled out the knife and I just wanted to get him off me". As it turned out, apart from brute strength the knife was the only weapon to protect himself, that is the accused man, and he is entitled to use that knife to protect himself, but only if you find that it is both necessary and reasonable.
31. As for the Crown satisfying you that what was done was not necessary to defend himself, and you can also take into account in deciding the accused's belief as to whether it was based upon reasonable grounds.
32. I tell you you do not have to accept all of what he said in the record of interview, and a simple example of, you may think, is the plastic bags as to whether you find that credible. You do not have to accept that, but that does not mean that you cannot as well accept other aspects of the record of interview which were put.
33. Questions you have got to ask yourself: Do you accept the accused man's version that it was both necessary and reasonable to stab Browning that many times? Is there an element of revenge for past events? Did he go beyond the number of stab wounds so that his conduct was not reasonable? These are facts to be determined by you.
34. In the end if you have a reasonable doubt that the accused acted in self-defence by doing what he did as being necessary and reasonable, then you acquit him. The Crown must prove beyond reasonable doubt that he did not act in self-defence, that is, he knew it was necessary or reasonable to do what he did. If you find that proved then of course you convict him. If you have a reasonable doubt about that issue then you must acquit him.