HIS HONOUR: Insofar as the plaintiff seeks to rely on P10 [being the Further Affidavit], as I understand it, I will repeat what I have said previously, it seeks to rely upon paragraph 16 and the paragraphs referrable to the statutory declaration and paragraph 25 and paragraphs referrable to the letter of 14 August 1998 and not otherwise. And they do so for the sole basis of attacking the credit of Mr Maisano. Now, in relation to that, as I understand it, all 3 parties before me are asking me to accept what is contained in the affidavit insofar as it concerns the conduct of Mr Maisano. Is that correct?
MR LEVINE: From our point of view, yes.
HIS HONOUR: Mr Maisano has told me that is correct. That is still correct, is it?
MR MAISANO: That is correct, Your Honour.
HIS HONOUR: Yes, and for the plaintiff that is correct?
MR SENATHIRAJAH: Yes, Your Honour.
HIS HONOUR: So therefore if it is an issue, the issue upon which you are seeking to rely is not in issue between the parties. Does that mean that the apprehension application ought to be put to one side on that basis at least, because I don't have to determine it because it seems to me everybody has a common ground?
MR LEVINE: We will be seeking to rely upon paragraph 25 in relation to how it extends to Mr Broadbent as well and that's what they relied upon. They relied upon that specific paragraph and it's my submission that they can't simply be very selective about that paragraph and state that it's true in relation to Mr Maisano when it deals with conferences and discussions he had with Mr Broadbent.
HIS HONOUR: Yes.
MR LEVINE: It can't be half true. Now if they are willing to concede that Mr Broadbent acted in that way then so be it.
HIS HONOUR: I am not asking for any concession though. The evidence is before the court and if you want to make submissions to that effect of course you can.
MR LEVINE: I don't wish to make submissions. I wish to cross-examine Mr Broadbent because it would be my understanding that they will not accept it. They will be simply stating that even though it was a conversation between 2 people that only 1 person is subject to it, not Mr Broadbent. So I would be seeking to rely upon it in relation to Mr Broadbent as well.
HIS HONOUR: All right, well, I haven't got that application before me now. I am dealing with the apprehension of bias application.
MR LEVINE: Then I will be making that application, Your Honour, but we will be seeking to rely upon it on its entirety and I will be seeking to have Mr Broadbent recalled.
HIS HONOUR: I understand that.
MR LEVINE: Yes.
HIS HONOUR: But let's just deal ---
MR LEVINE: If that's not before you at this stage, I would be seeking the determination of this disqualification to be done at the same time based on the submissions that I have made.
HIS HONOUR: I am sorry, I haven't quite followed what you have said.
MR LEVINE: I need to - the 2 applications follow together, Your Honour.
HIS HONOUR: Yes.
MR LEVINE: So it would be my submission that my client should have leave to have Mr Broadbent recalled and put these matters to him and that if leave was to be granted it would be inappropriate for Your Honour in those circumstances to hear the case.
HIS HONOUR: Yes, all right. So as I understand it at the moment, you are now deferring your application without any prejudice to your ability to make it again.
MR LEVINE: Yes, Your Honour.
HIS HONOUR: All right.
MR LEVINE: But if I do renew it, it will be done - I would be renewing it on the basis of the submissions that I have made now so that we don't have to ---
HIS HONOUR: No, you don't have to make those submissions again. So I will treat as deferred the application to have me disqualified. I assume the plaintiff has just got notice of your application or intended application to have Mr Broadbent cross-examined?
MR LEVINE: Yes, that's correct.