106 Argument before this Court proceeded on the basis that 'proceedings under' s 81J(1)(b) of the LGA, within the meaning of former cl 46E, included any application by a Council that the Tribunal order 'otherwise' as to costs. It is true that Keogh J observed, as was the case, that the costs application in the present case was made as part of the substantive proceeding. Unlike Kyrou JA, I do not take him as having decided that, as a matter of law, it formed part of that proceeding for the purposes of cl 46E. But as I have said, the respondent accepted that cl 46E applied to the costs application. In my opinion, it was correct to do so. While there may be policy reasons imagined by which it might not be thought necessary for members of the Tribunal to possess particular qualifications for dealing with costs issues, the normal course is for costs to be decided by the same persons, as far as possible, as constituted the body that made the substantive decision. Moreover, it would be anomalous if the 'proceedings' referred to in cls 46E and 46F did not extend to an application for costs, because the general rule as to costs would then not apply to the costs hearing itself.