Q. Have you attended under summons to give evidence ?
A. No, but the department told me I had to be here [she answers the question - thus admitting she was not giving evidence under compulsion - but comes up with an alternative explanation].
Q. Who told you that ?
A. I have a letter [i.e. she identifies a letter as the source of the requirement from the department for her to be there].
Q. Who told you that ?
A. Well its from the Crown Solicitor, so I don't know [she cannot in fact identify anyone from the department as having required her to be there].
Q. And what is it they said ?
A. I am supposed to be here [i.e. this is what was allegedly said in the letter].
Q. As a requirement of your employment ?
A. I don't think employment came into it. Honestly, I didn't read the letter, I didn't read the letter [if true, this means her last answer that the letter said she was supposed to be here was false, since she never read it . It also leaves her without any basis for her original assertion that she was only giving evidence because "I have to be here". It is a matter which, once tested, goes nowhere].
Further detracting from Ms Khazma's credit as a witness was her tendency to impute, without basis, improper motives or behaviour to every co-worker who gave evidence inconsistent with hers. For example, she said that Ms Anlezark was "not an honest person " and was very rude, and that she couldn't stand her [T 194.1-11]. Ms Zaharias hardly worked or wouldn't really work, had cigarette breaks a lot, and was very moody [T 116.51-58]. Mr Bonham was incapable of giving her a truthful and honest reference because of a "personality clash" between them [T 124.14-30]. Mr Rayner was also guilty of sexually harassing her (see below).
This general analysis of Ms Khazma's evidence would itself be sufficient to found the conclusion that the Department had not proven her allegations. However, a more detailed analysis of her specific allegations makes this conclusion even clearer.
The Allegation of Sexually Offensive Comments at the Workplace
Ms Khazma's allegation was that, on a very regular basis, Mr Dafkovski made outright sexually offensive comments to her in his office at work. These comments included " You look sexy ", " You're so fucking hot ", " Those stockings look hot on you " and " I love your colour - its hot " [Ex 17 par 5]. Ms Khazma's evidence was that there was nothing ambiguous in the type of remarks which she said Mr Dafkovski made to her at the office, but that they were " straight out " [T 140.32-46]. This is probably the most serious allegation made by Ms Khazma, since it involves clearly inappropriate behaviour in the workplace.
However, the evidence shows that this complaint was so altered and exaggerated over time it is impossible to tell what, if any, basis it ever had. Firstly, Mr Ewing said that when Ms Khazma first raised the complaint with him, it was that Mr Dafkovski had made " suggestive and ambiguous comments " to her [Ex 20 par 6], and that " it could have been one thing or the other, it may have been made in fun " [Ex 20 Annexure A p.4 lines 5-7]. Mr Ewing said that Ms Khazma told him the details of what was said, but that he could not recall any specific remarks [T 215.22-36]. Mr Ewing said that none of the alleged remarks set out in paragraph 15 above were identified at the time by Ms Khazma as having been said by Mr Dafkovski [T 219.9-220.1]. He did say he recalled the remark " That top looks hot on you ", but agreed it was not an innuendo-type remark [T 220.3-13]. Mr Ewing evidence therefore does not support Ms Khazma's evidence, but contradicts it.
As has been earlier stated, when Ms Khazma first raised her harassment allegations with Mr Cooke on 13 and 16 May 2005, Mr Cooke's evidence was that she made no mention of anything having occurred in the workplace (see paragraph 11.6 above). His notes of the meetings support this: " I asked Ms Khazma if these incidences occurred in the workplace or in a social setting to which she replied 'at the Shark Bar' ." His notes make no mention of the type of remarks set out in paragraph 15 above having been made in any context. It seems therefore that Ms Khazma did not think that there had been any workplace conduct on the part of Mr Dafkovski worth complaining about as at May 2005.
The matter first arose when Ms Khazma was interviewed by Ms Nix in June 2005, and was explained in an extremely garbled way [see Ex 17 Annexure A]. Ms Khazma was specifically asked about the frequency of the sexually offensive comments at work, and she answered: " Probably twice a month, sometimes three, four times " [ibid p.12 lines 44-5]. However, this had changed by the time of her affidavit, when she referred to being called into Mr Dafkovski's office and receiving these types of comments about her appearance " on almost every occasion " [Ex 17 par 4]. In cross-examination, this became usually a daily event: [T 136.34-35].
When this inconsistency was raised with her in cross-examination, Ms Khazma initially conceded that there was an inconsistency between in her affidavit and what she said during the interview [T 137.6-18]. She then said that the version she gave in court was the truth [T 137.20-21], that she had a more accurate recollection in September 2006 than in June 2005 [T 137.32-35], and that the answer she gave at the interview was not true and correct [T 138.1-2]. She could give no explanation as to why, having read the transcript of the interview, she took no steps to correct any answer she gave as to its substance [see T 138.17-139.17], despite it being clear that she had the opportunity to do so [Nix, T 326.41-49]. Subsequently, Ms Khazma tried to contend that she had understood the question in the interview concerning the frequency of offensive remarks in the workplace as relating to the specific "fat boy" comment only [T 167.13-38]. However, neither the particular question in the interview or the surrounding context provide any support for Ms Khazma's evidence in this regard. It is submitted that this was all a dishonest attempt to avoid having to explain the clear inconsistency in her evidence.
Ms Khazma stated in her affidavit that Mr Rayner was present on occasions when Mr Dafkovski made sexually offensive remarks to her in his office [Ex 17 par 12] Ms Khazma repeated this in her oral evidence, and indeed went further, saying that Mr Rayner " was always in his office " [T 151.19-41]. However, the transcript of Ms Khazma's interview in June 2005 is to the entirely opposite effect [Ex 17, Annexure A, p.9.49-52]:
Q. Did anyone else hear him say those things ?
A. No, because it was mainly in his office when there's no-one there, you know, get on his fat boy, pick me up. No, there was no-one there.
When confronted with this direct inconsistency in her evidence, Ms Khazma said (as with the frequency of the comments) that she understood the question related to the specific "fat boy" comment [T 166.39-167.11]. Again, neither the particular question in the interview or the surrounding context provide any support for Ms Khazma's evidence in this regard. She plainly invented it an attempt to avoid admitting what was obvious - that in June 2005 she had made it clear that there were no witnesses to Mr Dafkovski's alleged office conduct, and that she had contradicted this in her affidavit.
Mr Rayner denied in his affidavit that he had ever observed Mr Dafkovski behave in any inappropriate manner toward and staff member whilst he worked with him [Ex 15 par 5]. Specifically, he said that at no time while he was present in Mr Dafkovski's office did Mr Dafkovski make any inappropriate comments to Ms Khazma [Ex 15 par 10]. Although Mr Rayner was briefly cross-examined about this (without effect), it was never suggested to him that his evidence about this was untruthful [T 104.13-33].
Ms Khazma took her line about Mr Rayner one step further in her oral evidence, saying that he had made the same sort of sexually offensive remarks to her in the workplace that Mr Dafkovski allegedly had [T 151.29-36, 153.50-52]. It is important to note that this was not a matter ever put to Mr Rayner by counsel for the Department when he gave evidence - as it should have been, since if it had any basis to it, it was a matter going to his credibility as a witness. This was undoubtedly not due to any omission on the part of counsel for the Department, but rather because Ms Khazma had never mentioned this story to anyone before - not to Mr Ewing, or to Mr Cooke, or to Ms Nix, or to Mr Davies when he took her affidavit. Her stated reason for mentioning this for the first time in court was her purported belief that " if it is said in courtrooms it can't be taken any further " [T 155.29-30], but she was completely unable to identify the basis or source of this belief [ibid]. This was, in reality, another spur of the moment invention by Ms Khazma to evade difficult questions in cross-examination.
The allegations themselves, once placed in the physical context of the office environment at the Registry at Level 5 of the Downing Centre, are literally incredible. Mr Dafkovski had an office that was glass-walled on four sides, with another office on one side [T 157.42-50]. The venetian blinds over the walls were almost always left open [Zaharias Ex 11 pars 7, 15; Rayner Ex 15 par 7]. The door was never closed, according to Ms Khazma [T 158.46-47; see also Zaharias Ex 11 par 15 and Rayner Ex 13 par 5]. There were registry staff situated about two metres away from the open door, as Ms Khazma agreed [T 160.22-28]. It could not have been the case that Mr Dafkovski could, on an almost daily basis, have made sexually offensive remarks to Ms Khazma without at least once being overheard by somebody. However, nobody corroborated Ms Khazma's allegations in this regard.
An important part of Ms Khazma's allegations in this regard was that Mr Dafkovski would, on a daily or more than daily basis, summons her to his office by saying " Hey, Sam, get in here now ". Ms Khazma described Mr Dafkovski as " yelling it across the office ", and said that there was no doubt it would have been heard by other Registry staff [T 162.4-20]. Yet, as earlier stated, the Department called no witness from the Registry staff to corroborate this. Of a number of witnesses from the Level 5 Registry staff called by the Applicant, only one (Ms Anlezark) was cross-examined about this, and she denied that it ever occurred [T 77.9-13].
The Allegation re Removal of Resources
Ms Khazma alleged in her evidence that "When I began avoiding Mr Dafkovski after the incident at the Shark Bar described in paragraph 8 above, he proceeded to remove resources from my work area" [Ex 17 par 13]. This allegation was not listed in the Department's reasons for dismissal of Mr Dafkovski, although it was clearly known about, since it was raised by Mr Khazma in her interview in June 2005 [Ex 17 Annexure A p.7 lines 17-19]. It is therefore cannot be relied upon by the Department to justify the dismissal.
However, the allegation was clearly false, and so it is another matter going to Ms Khazma's credibility. That it was false was demonstrated by the evidence not only of Mr Dafkovski [Ex 6 par 9.12], but also of Ms Zaharias, her assistant [T 80.49-81.19, 81.48-82.22], Mr Bonham, her direct supervisor [T 94.18-43], and Ms Anlezark [T 72.27-73.2]. They all testified that she had a number of persons assisting her during the period that she was acting list clerk, and that any problems she had were a consequence of her generally late attendance at work and her incompetence.
The falsity of the allegation was also demonstrated by an issue which arose about the time at which this removal of resources was meant to have occurred. In her affidavit [Ex 17 pars 12-13] , Ms Khazma said that Mr Dafkovski began to " remove resources " from her work area after she began to avoid him following an incident in the Shark Bar [described in par 8] in which he allegedly made some offensive remarks concerning Ms Odichou and herself ("the Odichou incident"). In her evidence on 13 September 2006, Ms Khazma gave a different version. She said she was still going into his office after the Odichou incident (which she said occurred before Ms Odichou went to Balmain Local Court, making it prior to November 2004), but stopped doing so in January 2005 after the bottom-pinching incident at about Christmas 2004 [T 163.28-165.4]. On this basis, she identified paragraph 12 of her affidavit as being incorrect [T 165.16-30].
On the following hearing day, 14 September 2006, Ms Khazma initially confirmed again that both paragraphs 12 and 13 were incorrect, and that she began avoiding Mr Dafkovski in January 2005 [T 173.3-48]. Subsequently, she again confirmed that the alleged removal of resources occurred in January 2005 or afterwards, as a result of the alleged pinching incident around Christmas 2004 [T 198.45-54]. However, as was pointed out to Ms Khazma, the time sheets tendered by the Department [Ex 18] showed her complaining about (allegedly) reduced resources on 3 November 2004 - at least two months earlier. This of course showed that even if resources were reduced, they were reduced well before the time when Ms Khazma says she began avoiding Mr Dafkovski, demonstrating that there could not be any causal link between the two matters. When confronted with this, Ms Khazma initially stonewalled - saying "… I knew deep down in my heart, I knew this is why he was doing this " [T 200.44-5], without even attempting to justify the illogicality of her position. However, shortly afterwards - realising her difficulty - she changed her evidence again, and said that paragraphs 12 and 13 of her affidavit were in fact correct in identifying her avoidance of Mr Dafkovski as occurring after the earlier Odichou incident [T 201.8-50]. This shift of course solved the temporal problem for her.
When Ms Odichou was tested as to why she had earlier given contrary evidence, she initially prevaricated with the lie that she had not read her affidavit [T 201.52-202.40]. When pressed about this timing issue, she then said " I will be honest with you, I don't recall " [T 203.6] - another change in position, with the answer suggesting an admission that her earlier evidence about this had not been honest. She was then asked why she had given clear evidence about the matter earlier if she didn't remember, to which she responded by changing her position again and saying she began avoiding Mr Dafkovski after the alleged pinching incident - eventually firmly adopting this as her position [T 203.16-58]. When it was again pointed out to her that that position meant that there could be no connection between the earlier alleged removal of resources and the later alleged avoidance by her of Mr Dafkovski, Ms Khazma merely asserted " There is a connection " without attempting to explain herself further [T 204 8-12] (of course, there was no logical explanation, unless Mr Dafkovski had the ability to travel back in time).
Such an analysis of just one aspect of Ms Khazma's evidence is somewhat tedious, but it is necessary to demonstrate her complete recklessness as to the truth. It shows that she changed her evidence no less than four times about the same matter, as it suited her in order to deal with the questions she was asked in cross-examination. Her evidence that Mr Dafkovski " removed resources " from her work area in retaliation to her supposedly avoiding him cannot be believed. In fact, the evidence is that she never did have resources removed from her. Nor did she ever avoid Mr Dafkovski; the evidence in fact is that he began avoiding her after he had to call her into his office after she had a shouting match with Ms Zaharias in the workplace, resulting from her making false allegations about Ms Zaharias' work performance. This subsequently caused Ms Khazma to say: " Lupcho hardly talks to me anymore. He never comes into our section anymore " [Ex 11 pars 13-14].
The Fat Boy Allegation
Ms Khazma gave the following evidence in relation to this matter:
Mr Dafkovski said to her "I'll come and pick you up on my fat boy and we'll spend the whole weekend together" [Ex 17 par 10]
Ms Khazma's complaint was not that the reference to the "Fat Boy" was a double entendre, since she clearly understood he was only talking about his motor bike [T 188.56-189.6], nor would she have regarded a simple invitation to her to go a ride with him on the motor bike as being improper [T 189.19-25]. Rather, she regarded the reference to the spending the whole weekend together as being a sexual proposition [ibid; T 189.50-190.3].
Further, Ms Khazma said this invitation was made not one, but " once a week " over several weeks [T 190.5-191.8].
Importantly, Ms Khazma located these comments as having been made at the office , not at the Shark Bar.
That Ms Khazma's was replete with falsifications and exaggerations is demonstrated by comparing it with the evidence of Mr Cooke and Mr Ewing:
Mr Cooke, as stated earlier, made it clear that Ms Khazma had never complained to him about anything inappropriate having occurred at the office.
Mr Ewing gave evidence as to what Ms Khazma had originally told him about the matter. Mr Ewing said that he was quite clear in his recollection about this [T 223.12-19]. Firstly, he identified the words used as " I'd like to take you on my fat boy, we could have breakfast or brunch at a hotel " [Ex 20 par 9, as explained at T 214.28-54; 224.22-25]. Mr Ewing inferred that there was a sexual invitation in this [T 223.28-48]. However, no such inference necessarily arises from the words. When this version was put to Ms Khazma, she agreed that if that was what had been said, " I wouldn't have taken it as anything " [193.38-46].
Secondly, Mr Ewing's evidence was that Ms Khazma's "fat boy" complaint related to a single incident - not a repeated one [T 222.39-57].
Therefore, because of the manifest inconsistencies in the Department's own evidentiary case (and having regard to the general unreliability of Ms Khazma's evidence), it is impossible draw any clear conclusions about what was actually said, where it was said, how many times it was said, and (most importantly) whether what was said necessarily contained any sexual innuendo.
Mr Dafkovski denied the allegation as made by Ms Khazma. He gave evidence of a quite different conversation about the fat boy which was initiated by Ms Khazma with the words " Lupcho, when are we going for a ride on your bike [Ex 6 par 9.10]. For reasons earlier identified, Mr Dafkovski's evidence would be preferred over that of Ms Khazma. In this connection, it might additionally be noted that during her cross-examination, Ms Khazma revealed that there was a conversation between her and Mr Dafkovski about the fat boy which she initiated [T 189.11-17]:
" I remember I asked him 'what's a Fat Boy'. Or something I can't recall to the words of 'what's that ?'. And he told me it was a motor bike and it was one of those big motor bikes and I said 'Oh wow'. "
It is not clear whether this was the same conversation in which Ms Khazma alleged that Mr Dafkovski made an invitation for her to come for a ride on his motor bike. If it was, it might simply be observed that any such invitation in the context of the conversation described by Ms Khazma would probably have been entirely innocent. It is also relevant that this alleged conversation (bearing in mind that Mr Dafkovski purchased the fat boy motor bike in late 2004) is entirely inconsistent with the general picture Ms Khazma tried to paint of her relationship with Mr Dafkovski. Ms Khazma's failure to provide this important contextual evidence in either her interview with Ms Nix or in her affidavit is another matter going against her credit.
The Bottom-Pinching Allegation
As earlier stated, it would not be open to the Commission to conclude that this allegation was made out, because:
Mr Dafkovski's denial of this allegation would be preferred to Ms Khazma's evidence; and
The Department's failure to call Ms Gigliotti, or any other employees present, to corroborate Ms Khazma's account gives rise to a Jones v Dunkel inference (and, in any event, the record of Ms Gigliotti's interview is entirely inconsistent with Ms Khazma's evidence).
There are other problems with Ms Khazma's account. Firstly, she (and Mr Ewing) were completely unable to give any firm date for this incident, which otherwise they claim to have remembered so well. Mr Ewing placed it as being subsequent to Christmas 2004 in his interview [Ex 20, Annexure A p.4 lines 7-8]; but in his oral evidence was less clear about it [T 227.32-228.45]. Ms Khazma said it was "some sort of big event " held during either the " Christmas period or New year's period " [T 174.40-54]. This is important, because Mr Dafkovski was not at work during the first two working weeks of January 2005, meaning he could not have been in attendance if the event was in the New Year period. [Ex MEM-1, pp.192-194]. Again, the date of a " big event " like this was a matter which surely could have been corroborated by other employees. Secondly, Ms Khazma and Mr Ewing completely contradicted each other as to the time of day at which the incident was supposed to have occurred. Ms Khazma had no doubt that it occurred at an after work drinks function [T 177.29-36]. However, Mr Ewing was absolutely sure that it happened at lunchtime [T 227.53-228.5]. This was yet another example of the internal contradictions in the Department's evidentiary case.
Finally, there was Ms Khazma's astonishing revelation that she had also been pinched by another employee at the Shark Bar. It must be recalled that Mr Dafkovski, in denying the pinching allegation in his reply affidavit, gave the following evidence [Ex 6 par 9.8]:
" However, I do recall once occasion after work, when I had gone for a drink at the Shark Bar, I was standing with some others at the 'Stand-Up' section of the bar and Ms Khazma was standing at the bar when four or five males around her. She was in a very jovial mood and appeared to be having a good time. She caught my eye as she was being very animated with her hands when, suddenly she appeared to jump up, as if she had been startled. "
When Ms Khazma was asked if there was such an occasion as described by Mr Dafkovski during which she was pinched, she immediately agreed that there was, and stated that Mr Rayner had done it [T 186.43-50] (thus confirming the correctness of Mr Dafkovski's recollection). This of course had never been revealed to anyone before - not to Mr Ewing (Ms Khazma's evidence to the contrary was a lie, as earlier stated), nor to Mr Cooke, or to Ms Nix. This allegation was never put to Mr Rayner when he gave evidence (as it obviously should have been), again undoubtedly because neither the Department or its lawyers were aware of it. It simply beggars belief that Ms Khazma was twice pinched on the bottom by fellow employees at the Shark Bar, and chose to report one of the incidents but keep the other entirely secret. Ms Khazma's attempt at explaining this was that she felt Mr Rayner " won't do anything ", whereas Mr Dafkovski would [T 187.28-54]. However, it had never been suggested by Ms Khazma before that her complaint about the pinch was not the pinch as such, but the fear of some unexplained consequence following the pinch. The fact was that Ms Khazma's complaint, until then, was simply that she had been pinched on the bottom by a fellow employee. If any explanation of this bizarre evidence is necessary, it is that Ms Khazma was pinched by another employee, but has deliberately chosen to falsely blame Mr Dafkovski for this. However, as earlier stated, it is sufficient for the Commission to conclude that the Department has not discharged its evidentiary onus with respect to this allegation.
Other matters
Ms Khazma made two other allegations about Mr Dafkovski's conduct at the Shark Bar:
Mr Dafkovski allegedly said to her, on one occasion: "I want you - I don't want Mary, I want to fuck you. Mary wants to leave her husband for me, but I don't want her, I want you".
Mr Dafkovski allegedly said on another occasion, when affected by alcohol: " You're so fucking hot, now fuck off ".
Mr Dafkovski denied both of these allegations. His evidence should be preferred, which would be sufficient to dispose of these allegations. However, some additional matters may be taken into account:
As to the first allegation, Ms Khazma's version as stated in her affidavit should be compared to Mr Odichou's evidence of what Ms Khazma told her about it: " That I was going to leave my husband for him " [T 275.16-21]. This is yet another case of Ms Khazma so exaggerating her allegation over time that it has become impossible to tell what basis, if any, it ever had to it. It should also be noted that Mr Ewing did not give evidence that Ms Khazma had ever told him about this allegation.
As to the second allegation, Ms Khazma accepted that what she alleged Mr Dafkovski had said was not a proposition for her to go home and spend the night with him [T 198.11-13].
Ms Khazma's Motivation
It has been submitted that, in making the allegations she did against Mr Dafkovski, Ms Khazma gave false evidence. It is not necessary, in order to demonstrate that a witness has lied, to prove that they had a motive to lie: R v Baker [1999] NSWCCA 277. However, in this case, there is considerable evidence of such a motivation - arising from the circumstances in which, in May 2005, Ms Khazma tried to obtain a reference to support her application to be promoted to clerk grade 3/4 (an application which was unsuccessful).
Ms Khazma at first asked Mr Bonham, her immediate supervisor, for a reference. When he told her that he would have to give an honest and balanced reference, she immediately abandoned the attempt [Ex 13 par 7]. Ms Khazma's version was that she did not press Mr Bonham for a reference because she believed him incapable of giving a truthful and honest reference because of their " personality clash " [T 124.14-30]. However, it is abundantly clear that the true reason was that she knew he would make some criticisms of her work performance. She then went to Mr Dafkovski on 13 May 2005 and asked him for a reference - despite the fact that she says she believed at the time that Mr Dafkovski was not a person who would judge her on merit, but on what she could give him (presumably referring to sexual favours) [T 125.27-40]. In fact, it had been Mr Dafkovski who had appointed Ms Khazma to an acting grade 3/4 position when he became Registry Manager, as Ms Khazma conceded [T 126.21-29], giving the lie to the proposition that he would not treat her on her merits.
That Ms Khazma sought a reference from Mr Dafkovski proves false her assertion that, so far as she was concerned, his conduct has caused her to avoid him as far as possible. It is not in dispute that Mr Dafkovski refused to give her a reference, on the basis that she had to get a reference from her immediate supervisor [Ex 6 par 9.13]. Ms Khazma then stormed out of his office, and said as she left: " You'll pay for this " [Anlezark, Ex 10]. Ms Khazma denied this, but admitted that she was angry, did storm out of his office, and " said a few things " [T 126.38-50]. It was that very night - as Ms Khazma herself emphasised - that she made her complaint to Mr Cooke [T 127.16-36]. The motivation is clear - particularly when Ms Khazma does not date any of Mr Dafkovski's alleged misconduct as having occurred later than January 2005.
That Ms Khazma did not, before 13 May 2005, regard herself as having any real difficulties in her relationship with Mr Dafkovski is demonstrated by her evidence that Mr Dafkovski would, in social settings, give Ms Odichou and herself a hug and kiss upon departure, about which she said " I didn't find anything wrong with it " [T 133.42-134.1] (this incidentally again gives the lie to the notion that Ms Odichou was being singled out for some form of physical attention). Ms Khazma went on to give the following evidence about this [T 134.6-27, emphasis added]:
"A. I thought it was innocent, I didn't think anything of it because he would do it in front of Glen. There was nothing wrong with it.