"DEPUTY REGISTRAR: The problem I have is that this second medical certificate which has been produced, might I say, at the last moment - as was the first, is in conflict with the contents of the first certificate. The first certificate says that Dr. Hechtman finds that Mr. Kay is suffering from an acute anxiety state in relation to his work. 'This has already compromised his work ability in the short-term and he's not fit to appear at the Tribunal'. The second one says, 'He's presently capable of performing his professional legal duties but he's suffering from situational anxiety specific to the stress of attending the Tribunal hearings'. Now, those are in total conflict those two certificates. MR. MARSHALL: Perhaps he's getting better - - - DEPUTY REGISTRAR: Perhaps he is. Look, I'll flag that I'm not impressed by these certificates, the matter is still open to argument but I'll flag right now that I'm not impressed by these certificates; nor am I impressed by the absence of any further evidence. I don't know whether Dr. Hechtman has any qualifications in psychiatry or psychology, the letterhead is West Hawthorn Clinic and a list of doctors' names or people's names with doctor in front of them; I presume that they are medical doctors. I think it would be fair to say that with a letterhead like that, they are probable GPs. I'm not entirely sure that Dr. Hechtman has any particular qualifications to even make these observations. MR. MARSHALL: I wonder if it may be appropriate, sir, if the matter be stood down very briefly and I could make some enquiries with respect to that because obviously - - - DEPUTY REGISTRAR: The only enquiries that are going to impress me are the ones that say that Dr. Hechtman is here now. MR. MARSHALL: The enquiry may elicit a response that he can be here within a period of time. DEPUTY REGISTRAR: Everyone is here now, Mr. Marshall. I know this is putting the pressure on you but it's your application. MR. MARSHALL: I understand that, sir. I'm not of course in a position to call him now. I am in a position within minutes to determine his qualifications and the position he holds and the nature of the clinic. DEPUTY REGISTRAR: I wouldn't be prepared to take that through you, Mr. Marshall. Is this the only material you are placing before me? MR. MARSHALL: It is the only material I have. DEPUTY REGISTRAR: Yes. I have to say that I do not accept that a legal practitioner can be capable of performing day-to-day legal activities but not be capable of standing to account before his own professional tribunal, it's part of practice and if one is not capable of doing so then one risks his capacity to be fit for practice. Now, so long as Mr. Kay is practising, in the absence of far greater evidence than is before me at the moment, I intend to proceed with these matters today."