Q. Okay. Um, the other thing that we should be aware of, too, is that you've got legal representation, for the, for this particular matter, have you not?
A. Yep.
Q. Okay. That person, do you know who that is?
A. Malcolm Ayoub.
Q. Okay. Um, now, obviously we've got a lot of things there to tell you about (indistinct) Jeremy, has, um, but you also, another right you have is to have someone present with you while you're being interviewed. Say a legal friend, or seek legal advice, because uh, I suppose that's important in the scheme of things that we tell you that, even though you might not want to exercise that right. But that you do know if you wanta answer things - - -
A. Well, I mean, it's probably a wise idea to have, a lawyer or whatever present, yeah?
Q. Look, it's purely up to you, it's a right that we have to tell you. Certainly Jeremy's going down the track of saying, mate you can answer things, you don't have to answer things, we're gonna tell you, pretty much what you want, as far as you wanta know, the allegations, I would imagine, of what - - -
A. Well I do, I wanta know what Jeremy said, yeah.
DETECTIVE SERGEANT COULSON: Mate, that's what I'm gonna - that's what I'm gonna say to you, I'm gonna give you those, and you're gonna have an opportunity just to - just to say yeah, that's how it happened, or no - - -
A. All right.
Q. - - - it's not, I mean - like Carlos said, as long as you're aware of your rights, you know, that's the main thing, Greenie.
A. Yep.
Q. Um, and - and that you're happy to talk to us, mate. We - we're not gonna - we're not gonna lie to you, we're not gonna trick you - - -
A. Yeah.
Q. Mate, whatever we say to you is - is facts as we know 'em, we're not gonna make stuff up to try and get you to say anything, okay, that's not what we're about. It's really, we'll tell you the facts as we know them, and you can - you can comment one way or the other.
A. Yep.
Q. All right, or you can say that's not how it happened, this is why it happened, or that - what. So you happy to talk?
A. Yep.
Q. Yep.
A. Yep.
DETECTIVE SERGEANT [CORREIA]: And it's a question of fairness, mate, um, is it Ray you like to be called, or Greenie - - -
A. Uh, Greenie preferably, yeah.
Q. Greenie, it's - it's a question of fairness, mate. We have to be seen to be fair, and this interview that we're doing here now, uh, needs to be voluntary, and you participate in it, or else we don't get anywhere.
A. Yeah.
Q. You know, we got a lot of facts and figures that we want to put to you and all that, and I'd be thinkin' you'd wanna know, um - - -
A. For sure.
Q. And at the end of the day, if all rights are explained to you, and you know all of what's going on, it's seen to be fair at the end of the day. Uh, and fairness means, that you have an opportunity to talk to us, but as explained, you also have certain rights which you need to know, and it seems, I think we've - we've explained it all now - - -
A. Yep.
Q. But you know all of that, and if you want to exercise that, if you wanta say, hey boys I've had enough I don't wanta talk any more, whatever the case may be, you choose to do that, mate, we'll go along with the (indistinct).
A. Yep.
DETECTIVE SERGEANT COULSON: Yep?
A. Absolutely (ts 6,7)