"All right. You agree that you sent her away with the healer?---Yeah, because the mother agreed too.
The mother agreed to, yes, and it says in the statement that she complained because she was frightened. You say that she wasn't frightened?---No, she didn't look frightened when she came to me after.
The statement, though, says that she did look frightened, but that's wrong?---That's wrong because she's come and said to me that 'He molest me' or something. I said, 'Oh, no. He just heal you from your asthma.'
All right, and you say that the statement's wrong because you didn't flag down the police car?---No, I did not flag the police car down, but the bloke he was fighting with before I went there.
And you say the statement's wrong in saying that you wanted to tell the police, because you wouldn't tell the police about something like that?---If he did something, I would have waved the police down and done it, but I didn't wave the police down because he didn't do it.
You think that Penny was lying about that incident too?---Yeah, because I was subpoenaed to go up there to Port Hedland court when he pleaded not guilty and that afternoon he changed his plea to guilty, but I made all the arrangements to go to Port Hedland. Now, what the police do to him up there? That's what I'd like to know.
Just stop there a moment. So in the end he actually pleaded guilty to doing things to Penny. Correct?---What I heard.
You heard, but you still think that she was lying about that?---Yeah, because Penny was mentally disturbed still and had no counselling whatsoever at the time. Since I took her in my care, when the counsellor came around to counsel Penny, her mother got jealous for Penny.
When you say in the statement that you signed that you knew what he had done when you said, 'He's entered me' or 'Tried to enter me', that part's not true, either?---Because she didn't say that to me, that he tried to enter her.
You've put it in your statement?---I don't remember putting that in my statement."