The third proposed interrogatory
25 The proposed third interrogatory, which comprises multiple parts, enquires whether, as at 28 June 2018, the applicant considered certain statements regarding the voting record of the elected members of the Australian Greens in the House of Representatives or the Australian Senate in the 42nd, 43rd, 44th and 45th Parliaments to be true or substantially true. The respondent wishes the applicant to state separately, in relation to the Greens Parliamentarians in each of these Parliaments, whether as at 28 June 2018 she considered it to be true, or substantially true, that the voting record of the Greens Parliamentarians was:
(i) "more left-wing" than that of any other political party represented in the Parliament;
(ii) "more radical" than that of any other political party represented in the Parliament; and
(iii) "more reforming" than that of any other political party represented in the Parliament.
26 Counsel for the respondent submitted that this proposed interrogatory (along with Interrogatories 4-7) are relevant to the respondent's defence of justification (that is, whether the applicant had said in the course of a debate in the Senate that "all men are rapists"), to the defence of qualified privilege (because it goes to the reasonableness of the respondent's belief that she had said such words and his subsequent statements that she had done so) and to the matters pleaded in [35]-[37] of the filed Defence concerning the quantum of damages claimed by the applicant.
27 The third proposed interrogatory cannot reasonably be regarded as necessary for the respondent's defences of justification and qualified privilege. Neither of the pleas of those defences makes any reference to the matters which are the subject of this proposed interrogatory. It is not readily apparent that the availability of the defences may be informed by the applicant's answers to the matters about which they enquire. The same conclusion applies with respect to the 4th-7th interrogatories.
28 In relation to the applicant's claim for damages, in [35] of his filed Defence, the respondent pleads that he and the applicant are each practising politicians having been elected to the Senate as endorsed candidates of the Liberal Democrats and the Australian Greens respectively. In [36], the respondent pleads:
The Applicant and the Respondent, and their respective political parties, are, and are widely known and understood by the Australian public to be, at polar extremes of the political spectrum in Australian politics, in that:
(a) the Applicant is, and is widely known and understood by the Australian public to be, amongst the most radical, reforming, or socialistic, and therefore amongst the furthest to the left of centre, of members of the Australian Parliament;
(b) the Applicant's party is, and is widely known and understood by the Australian public to be, amongst the most radical, reforming, and socialistic, and therefore amongst the furthest to the left of centre, of political parties represented in the Australian Parliament;
(c) the Respondent is, and is widely known and understood by the Australian public to be, amongst the most libertarian, conservative, and anti-socialistic, and therefore amongst the furthest to the right of centre, of members of the Australian Parliament; and
(d) the Respondent's party is, and is widely known and understood by the Australian public to be, amongst the most libertarian, conservative, and anti-socialistic, and therefore amongst the furthest to the right of centre, of political parties represented in the Australian Parliament.
29 Then, in [37], the respondent pleads that it "logically and necessarily follows" from the matters set out in [35] and [36] that none of the four matters of which the applicant complains in the ASC could have caused any injury to the applicant's character or reputation. The full plea is as follows:
[37] From the matters set forth in paragraphs 35 and 36 of this pleading, it logically and necessarily follows that:
(a) nothing said by the Respondent, including the matters sued upon, could alter the opinions of a person who was otherwise disposed either:
(i) to hold the Applicant in favourable esteem; or
(ii) to take a neutral view with respect to the Applicant;
(b) the only persons who might attach any credence or weight to statements made by the Respondent, including the matters sued upon, are persons who were otherwise disposed neither:
(i) to hold the Applicant in favourable esteem; nor
(ii) to take a neutral view with respect to the Applicant; and
(c) in the premises, the matters sued upon could not cause, did not cause, and will not cause:
(i) any injury to the Applicant's character or reputation; or
(ii) the Applicant to suffer any loss or damage.
30 The nature of the present interlocutory application and the brevity of counsel's submissions means that this judgment should not be the occasion for the Court to express any view concerning either the logic or the merit of the assertions made in [37]. These may be significant issues at the trial.
31 I proceed on the basis that the 42nd to 45th Parliaments to which the interrogatory refers are those which have occurred since 2007 when the applicant was first elected to the Australian Senate.
32 A number of matters indicate that it would not be appropriate to order the applicant to answer the proposed third interrogatory.
33 First, each part of the proposed third interrogatory seeks the applicant's opinion about the identified matters. It is not readily apparent that the applicant's own opinion about those matters has any relevance to the matters pleaded in [35]-[37] of the Defence. Counsel for the respondent sought to avoid this difficulty by submitting that the respondent is not seeking to elicit expert opinion from the applicant. He submitted instead that it is the applicant's state of mind which is material, but did not explain how that may be so. It is not readily apparent that the applicant's state of mind with respect to the identified matters may be relevant to any of the matters raised by the respondent in answer to the applicant's claim for damages.
34 Secondly, there is an inherent imprecision in the concepts of "more left-wing than", "more radical than" and "more reforming than". Quite apart from the difficulties for the applicant in answering questions with that imprecision, the utility in the proceedings of her answers (whether affirmative or negative) is unclear.
35 Thirdly, although there is no evidence before the Court of the number of "Greens Parliamentarians" who have been members of the respective Parliaments, it seems reasonable for the Court to proceed on the basis that there have been several. The proposed interrogatory would require the applicant to answer the questions with respect to each of those Parliamentarians. It is not reasonable to require the applicant to do so. Such a task would be oppressive, especially given that the utility of the answers is not clear.
36 Fourthly, even if the applicant did have some belief about the matters which are the subject of the proposed third interrogatory, it is not readily apparent why her belief on one particular day, 28 June 2018, is of relevance in the proceedings.
37 For these reasons, I will not order the applicant to provide an answer to the proposed third interrogatory.