MR GIBSON: (Resuming) So with the limited number of people that you've got, with that one and the (S) one, you've got a match, you can conclude what Dr Atcheson said? It could have been anybody? ... Well the chance of it being someone else, the chance of it being - what we have is a situation here where we have a DNA profile on this oral swab that's not from (S) and there's male DNA there and we're surmising that it's from the seminal material on this oral swab so we have an oral swab from a woman, it has male DNA in it, it has the DNA profile that we've got, that DNA profile matches the DNA profile of Mr Gibson's so there are a couple of explanations for this. One, that it's his DNA or it's not his DNA at all, it's someone else's DNA. Now that one in 100,000,000 - (new tape) - and one in a hundred million is the chance that it is a second person, unrelated to Mr Gibson who also has a DNA Profile that would match that profile. So if you like it is the chance of going out onto the street of Launceston or Hobart or anywhere in Tasmania and plucking someone out who also has that same DNA Profile, charging them with this offence and putting them on trial and, you know, would they have the same DNA Profile - the chance of that happening, them having that same DNA Profile as that on the oral swabs is less than one is a hundred million. That is for someone unrelated to Mr Gibson. And we have talked about brothers and relatives.