6 November 2006 - Conference with Ms O'Callaghan
95The mortgage and other documents which were required to be signed by Mr Pittman and Mr Webster were sent directly by First Mortgage to Christopher Edwards. They arrived on the afternoon of 5 November 2006.
96The documents were first produced to Mr Pittman and Mr Webster at the conference which occurred the following morning at about 10am.
97It is clear that the firm Christopher Edwards had previously acted for Ms Locke and for some period of time. Ms O'Callaghan deposed to the fact that Ms Locke had been a client of the firm since late 2004 and that between that time and October 2006, she had been instructed by Ms Locke in relation to a number of matters which were predominantly conveyancing matters, including refinancing and selling of property owned by Ms Locke or her associated companies. Ms Leanne Martin, a conveyancing paralegal, also assisted in looking after Ms Locke.
98Ms O'Callaghan says that during her dealings with Ms Locke, she was never aware of the extent of her developments or the detailed financial arrangements place regarding those developments. I have no reason to doubt that evidence, although it is equally clear, as I have earlier said, that she had a degree of familiarity with Mr Locke's business entities and her affairs generally.
99It was Ms O'Callaghan's understanding on the morning of 6 December 2006 prior to that meeting, that neither of Mr Pittman or Mr Webster were going to derive any financial, monetary or other benefit from the loan, which was being made by First Mortgage.
100It appears that the meeting took somewhere between half an hour (according to Mr Pittman and Mr Webster) and about an hour (according to Ms O'Callaghan). There is no contemporaneous note of the precise length of the meeting.
101As the covering letter from First Mortgage records, there were nineteen separate sets of documents required to be either signed by, given to, or acted upon by Mr Pittman and Mr Webster, or Ms O'Callaghan.
102Ms O'Callaghan described the way in which she went about the conference in her evidence. Having carefully read her affidavit and listened to her evidence, I am persuaded that she has little, if any, accurate recollection of what happened in this conference, but honestly believes that she followed her usual procedure in explaining documents to Mr Pittman and Mr Webster, and providing the documents to them to be signed. Her evidence is, I am satisfied, largely a reconstruction. I do not regard it as generally accurate.
103Ms O'Callaghan agreed that it was not possible in the space of time allocated for this conference, for Mr Pittman and Mr Webster to have read the entirety of the loan agreement. It follows from that answer, which I accept, that it was not possible for them to have read in their entirety all of the other documents which were forwarded by First Mortgage to Ms O'Callaghan. This conclusion is fortified by the fact that neither Mr Pittman nor Mr Webster were good readers. Mr Webster's evidence about his reading ability suggests that he was simply not capable of reading these documents, even if given an extended period of time.
104The conclusion is also fortified by the fact that the Memorandum of Mortgage which was filed in the Land Titles Office, the terms of which were incorporated into each of the three impugned mortgages, was not available to Ms O'Callaghan. She did not know, for the purposes of this transaction, what those conditions were, none was a copy provided to Mr Pittman and Mr Webster. No explanation was, or could have been given to them about its contents.
105Even if Mr Pittman and Mr Webster were accomplished readers, having regard to the volume and content of the material with which they were being confronted for the first time in that conference, it would not have been possible for them to have read, let alone absorbed, the content of those documents. Much less would it have been possible for them to get any real understanding of the documents, from reading them, having regard to their limited capacity for reading and their limited intellectual capacity for understanding the content of these rather complex documents.
106The only information given to Mr Pittman and Mr Webster was that provided by Ms O'Callaghan, in the context of what they had been informed of, by Ms Locke, before they went to the meeting.
107It is also relevant to note that, so far as can be determined from the documents which were tendered, the bundle of documents which Ms O'Callaghan had before her at the conference, consisted of over one hundred pages and so far as can be determined, Mr Webster and Mr Pittman were required to sign their names on the various documents on over thirty occasions each. Ms O'Callaghan had to witness their signatures, formally by signing her name, on over thirty-five occasions. In addition, during the course of the conference, it was necessary for Ms O'Callaghan to, when completing the identity checking process, obtain documents of identity from Mr Webster and Mr Pittman, have those documents photocopied, certify the copy as being an accurate copy of their identity documents, and return those identity documents to them.
108Additionally, as is obvious from a number of the documents, Ms O'Callaghan had to complete various parts of the documents which were otherwise blank. Ms O'Callaghan also had to undertake a number of searches for the purpose of dealing with the encumbrance of a life estate on the title.
109Ms O'Callaghan did not prepare a separate diary note of all that occurred during this conference. She did not prepare any diary note recording the terms of any advice which she gave. However, during the conference, she completed, and observed, Mr Pittman and Mr Webster place their signatures on a pro forma document, which had been sent to her by First Mortgage, which was entitled "Acknowledgment of legal advice by proposed borrower". In cross-examination, Ms O'Callaghan initially accepted that this document was intended to, and did, record advice that she gave to Mr Pittman and Mr Webster. However, as the complete cross-examination demonstrated, the document recorded advice which could not have applied to this transaction, and which would could not have been, and, as Ms O'Callaghan ultimately accepted, was not given by Ms O'Callaghan to Mr Pittman and Mr Webster. It would be unreliable to accept this document as any form of a contemporaneous file note.
110Paragraph 3 of the "Acknowledgment" is in the following terms:
"3. The advice given to me by my solicitor included that:-
(a) by signing the loan documents I will be liable for regular payments of interest and repayment of the amount of the loan at the due date;
(b) if I fail to make any payment on time, the lender can charge a higher rate of interest, and the lender's costs of rectifying that failure;
(c) if I fail to comply with any of the terms and conditions of the loan documents including the obligation to pay principal and interest,
the lender can sue me personally; and
the lender may take possession of my property; and
after notice, sell my property to recover the amount owing together with interest and other costs including solicitor's costs, the costs of selling the property and the costs of maintaining the property; and
if the proceeds of the sale of my property are insufficient to satisfy the debt to the lender, the lender can sue me for the deficit, and
(d) the additional obligations, rights and remedies set out in the loan documents if the Consumer Credit Code applies;
(e) that I am/we are satisfied that our obligations to you will not adversely impact on our ability to meet all my/our other financial obligations (including living expenses) as and when they fall due;
(f) that I/we confirm that I/we can comfortably afford all repayments resulting from this loan without incurring substantial financial hardship;
(g) by making a Statutory Declaration verifying the giving of the advice I am making a statement having the force of an Oath which can be relied upon by the lender."
111In her affidavit, Ms O'Callaghan deposes to the fact that she gave the advice set out in that paragraph, paragraph 3, of the document. But she could not have and I do not accept that she did. In subparagraph (a), the advice purports to be that there would be regular payments of interest. Mr Pittman and Mr Webster were not making any payments of interest, let alone regular ones, at all. The loan did not require regular payments of interest for the first twelve months, because that interest was pre-paid.
112Subparagraph (e), namely that the borrowers informed Ms O'Callaghan that they were satisfied that their obligations under the proposed borrowing would not adversely impact their ability to meet all of their financial obligations, including living expenses, could not possibly have been, and was not, said by Mr Pittman and Mr Webster to Ms O'Callaghan.
113Subparagraph (f), which refers to assurances given by Mr Pittman and Mr Webster to Ms O'Callaghan could not have been said during the conference. The fact was that neither Mr Pittman nor Mr Webster could not "comfortably afford all repayments". They did not know what the amounts of the repayments were and they did not give any such assurance to Ms O'Callaghan.
114Ms O'Callaghan in cross-examination agreed that whilst she may have read out these paragraphs to Mr Webster and Mr Pittman, she did not draw their attention to the fact that they could not possibly have given those undertakings or declarations to the lender. She agreed it was incumbent on her to draw that fact to their attention, and that she did not do so. In light of these concessions, properly made, I do not accept Ms O'Callaghan's evidence in chief that she in fact read all of these matters out to Mr Pittman and Mr Webster. In those circumstances, I cannot be satisfied that she gave the legal advice set out in this Acknowledgement. On the contrary, I accept Mr Pittman and Mr Webster's evidence that little or no advice about the transaction was given to them by Ms O'Callaghan.
115The significant change in the evidence, between Ms O'Callaghan's affidavit and the answers that she gave in cross-examination in respect of this document, and other events during the conference, lead me to the view that the conversations set out by Ms O'Callaghan between paragraphs 35 and 65 of her principal affidavit are likely to be unreliable and I do not accept her evidence about them. There are a number of reasons for this.
116First, it is unlikely that the reason said to have been given by Mr Pittman and Mr Webster to Ms O'Callaghan for not seeing Mr Mitchell, a previous solicitor, was that they did not want to go to Katoomba to sign documents. They had in fact done so on many occasions. The reason they were seeing Ms O'Callaghan was that Ms Locke had made arrangements with First Mortgage to send the documents to Ms O'Callaghan. There was never a suggestion that Mr Pittman and Mr Webster would see anybody other than Ms O'Callaghan with respect to these documents. The allegedly proffered reason did not reflect the fact, and there was no reason for, nor was it suggested to either of Mr Pittman or Mr Webster, that they lied to Ms O'Callaghan about this apparently inconsequential fact.
117Secondly, Ms O'Callaghan, in her affidavit in paragraph 36, says that she was handed a copy of the loan documents either by Ms Locke immediately before the meeting, or Mr Pittman and Mr Webster at the meeting. Clearly, as the emails and correspondence show, and as Ms O'Callaghan ultimately accepted in cross-examination, this was not correct and that her firm had the documents prior to the conference and it was she who produced them to Mr Pittman and Mr Webster. There is no evidence to suggest that Ms Locke was ever in possession of the documents prior to that conference.
118Thirdly, in paragraph 38 of her principal affidavit, she purports to recall a conversation with Mr Pittman and Mr Webster to the following effect:
"EOC: Have you seen these documents before?
Pittman: Yes. Margot showed them to us.
EOC: Have you had a chance to read through them?
Pittman: Yes. We flicked through them."
119This conversation could not possibly have happened. It does not reflect the fact of the documents being in the possession of Ms O'Callaghan's firm. It does not reflect the fact, as Ms O'Callaghan ultimately agreed in cross-examination, that it was she who produced the documents and showed them to Mr Webster and Mr Pittman for the first time. Nor is it likely that Mr Pittman would ever have said that he flicked through the documents having regard to his limited reading capacity.
120Fourthly, in paragraph 39 of her principal affidavit, Ms O'Callaghan records a statement by either Mr Pittman or Mr Webster in response to her question:
"EOC: That's a lot of money, what is it for?
Pittman/
Webster: Margot needs it to complete the subdivision at
Razorback.
EOC: So Margot is using all of this money for the subdivision?
Pittman: Yeh, that's right ..."
121As is manifestly apparent from the disbursement statement dated 6 December 2006, prepared by First Mortgage and signed by Mr Pittman and Mr Webster in Ms O'Callaghan's presence, not all of the money was going to Ms Locke to complete the subdivision at Razorback. On the contrary, the disbursement statement on its face demonstrates that other borrowings are being repaid, and purportedly the balance of funds were being paid to Mr Pittman and Mr Webster. Although this is not what ultimately happened, the document then available was inconsistent with the verbal account, but on her evidence, Ms O'Callaghan did not identify the discrepancy, nor seek any explanation for that significant discrepancy.
122Fifthly, Ms O'Callaghan knew that one of the requirements of First Mortgage was that at settlement, they be provided with a discharge of the Flamanda mortgage. Unless Ms O'Callaghan knew that the Flamanda mortgage related to the Razorback subdivision, she could not without question or comment have accepted this remark as accurate. She does not recall any such question or comment.
123Sixthly, in paragraph 45 of her principal affidavit, Ms O'Callaghan deposes to a conversation to the following effect, having obtained a copy of the title searches of the real property during the conference:
"EOC: There is a life estate to Daisy Anne Pittman and Ena Fairlie. What's that all about?
Pittman: Daisy was our grandmother. Ena was our mother. We are half brothers. She had a life estate. She died some time ago. The land is ours now.
EOC: That needs to come off title in order for the new mortgage to be registered. ..."
124The terms of Ms O'Callaghan's affidavit in paragraph 43, describe the lead up to this conversation. She records her observations:
"On the search of folio 8/..., I noticed a dealing, G143185. I conducted a search of dealing G143185 ... I noticed that the dealing related to a life interest involving Daisy Ann Pittman and Ena Fairlie".
125These two paragraphs suggest that Ms O'Callaghan found out for the first time, having obtained the title searches, about the existence of the life estate. However, as the emails demonstrate, Ms O'Callaghan was on notice of the dealing and the life interest before the meeting with Mr Pittman and Mr Webster. On 3 December 2006, Ms Locke had sent her an email noting the interest on the title, the fact that it was a life interest to Daisy Pittman, who was deceased and had been for some time. Ms Locke also notified Ms O'Callaghan of the requirement that the dealing be removed from the title.
126Further, on the afternoon of Tuesday 5 December 2006, at about 2.45pm, Ms O'Callaghan sent an email to Ms Locke which included the words "have ordered the search also to remove Daisy from the title". As well, in an email sent at a little after 8.30am on 6 December 2006 by Ms Locke to Ms O'Callaghan, Ms Locke said:
"In relation to the Life Interest on the title of Lot 8 DP..., the name is Daisy Anne Pittman."
127The dealing G143185 is entitled "Application to be registered under the Real Property Act (s 94) as Proprietor by Transmission". It records the fact that Daisy Anne Pittman, a widow of Kurrajong Heights, claims to be entitled "for an estate (in fee simple)" with respect to land held by the late Clement Pittman, also of Kurrajong Heights. The application notes that:
"I declare that no other person is within my knowledge entitled to any estate or interest in the said land, except as follows:
Ena Fairlie has the right to reside in the homestead erected on the land and the use of the flower garden around the house during her life as set out in the deceased's will ..."
128As a consequence of this Application, on 6 December 1954, Daisy Anne Pittman was registered as the proprietor of the land. In substance, what this dealing recorded, was a life estate in favour of Ena Fairlie over a limited part of the land, namely the house and its immediate curtilage, the registered proprietor of which was Daisy Anne Pittman.
129In those circumstances it is highly unlikely for a solicitor reading that dealing, as Ms O'Callaghan says she did, to have said to Mr Pittman and Mr Webster, words to the effect, with respect to Daisy Pittman, that "[t]here is a life estate here to Daisy Anne Pittman" as she deposes in her affidavit. The dealing did no such thing. Nor does the dealing which is an Application for Registration by Transmission, sit comfortably with the description used, namely, "... the dealing related to a life interest ...", used by Ms O'Callaghan in so far as it relates to Daisy Pittman who was not getting a life estate at all - on the contrary, she was taken the whole of the land as the new registered proprietor. For these two reasons, I do not accept the accuracy of Ms Callaghan's evidence of the particular conversation.
130In light of all of the foregoing, I do not accept the accuracy of Ms O'Callaghan's evidence as to the nature and content of the conversations which she had with Mr Pittman and Mr Webster on 6 December 2006, and as she has deposed in her affidavit. As I have earlier said, much of the affidavit is a reconstruction.
131As a consequence, I generally accept the evidence of Mr Pittman and Mr Webster as to what took place during this meeting.
132Of interest, is that Ms O'Callaghan does depose to the fact that the first documents signed by Mr Pittman and Mr Webster were the loan documents, followed by them signing the mortgage documents. Ms O'Callaghan then says she would have turned to the statutory declarations pursuant to the Consumer Credit Code, and, after explanation, they were then entered into by Mr Pittman and Mr Webster.
133The terms of the Consumer Credit Code declaration contains this phrase:
"3. I/we declare that this declaration was executed prior to me/us entering into the Mortgage and associated documents."
134And an Acknowledgement, also signed during the conference on 6 December and addressed to First Mortgage, contains this statement:
"I/we Basil James Pittman and Rex Neil Webster confirm that the two (2) Statutory Declarations pursuant to the Consumer Credit Code were executed by me/us PRIOR to executing any other security documents between ourselves and FIRST MORTGAGE MANAGED INVESTMENTS LIMITED...."
135If the sequence of events deposed to by Ms O'Callaghan is correct, then these documents were in truth signed in her presence by Mr Pittman and Mr Webster in circumstances where the declarations were manifestly untrue. It is unlikely that Ms O'Callaghan would have permitted Mr Pittman and Mr Webster to have signed false declarations.
136I do not accept the evidence of Ms O'Callaghan of the sequence of the signing of the documents. I think it more likely than not that, having regard to the contents of the declarations, they would have been executed before signing the loan and the mortgage.
137Lastly, a further reason to regard Ms O'Callaghan's affidavit evidence as inaccurate, is that in paragraph 66 she asserts that Mr Pittman and Mr Webster took a copy of the documents they had signed with them when they left the offices of Christopher Edwards. In cross-examination she accepted that she had no clear recollection of Mr Pittman and Mr Webster leaving with copies of the documents, and that it was possible that Ms Locke took with her copies of the documents and not Mr Pittman and Mr Webster.
138I think it more likely than not, in light of Mr Pittman and Mr Webster's evidence on this point, which I accept, that they did not take any documents away from the officers of Christopher Edwards and that all documents were provided directly to Ms Locke.
139In the result, there is little of Ms O'Callaghan's evidence which I can accept in preference to that of Mr Pittman and Mr Webster as to the substance of the advice which was or was not given.
140The essence of Ms O'Callaghan's account in her affidavit is that she gave comprehensive, appropriate and independent advice. Mr Pittman and Mr Webster denied receiving any legal advice at all, nor any financial advice.
141Ultimately, in cross-examination, Ms O'Callaghan agreed that she had failed to give advice, which a prudent solicitor would have given to Mr Pittman and Mr Webster, on the following matters, namely:
(a)the absence of any written agreement, or documentation recording any obligations or arrangements between them and Ms Locke;
(b)the absence of any form of security being given to them by Ms Locke to protect their interests; and
(c)most particularly, that there was no benefit at all in entering into the transaction, and that it was contrary to their interests to enter into it.
142Ms O'Callaghan was asked these questions with respect to the conference of 6 December 2006, and she gave these answers:
"Q. Now, the failure by you to give the various legal advices, that you accepted from me a prudent solicitor would have given in this case, had the consequence that Mr Pittman and Mr Webster entered into this transaction, correct?
A. Yes.
Q. And it also had the consequence that a very substantial benefit was conferred on Ms Locke and/or her companies?
A. Yes.
Q. And your failure to give that advice advanced her interests, correct?
A. Yes, correct.
Q. And disadvantaged the interests of your clients, Mr Pittman and Mr Webster?
A. Yes."
143Ms O'Callaghan also agreed with cross-examining counsel that any legal advice which she gave to Mr Pittman and Mr Webster was not independent of Ms Locke, because of the pre-existing relationship between the firm Christopher Edwards and Ms Locke. No doubt, also the interests of Ms Locke in this particular transaction meant that the advice was not independent.
144She also agreed that the result of her failure to give such advice as she ought, was that in the transaction Ms Locke's interests were preferred to the interests of Mr Pittman and Mr Webster. She said that this was unintentional.
145Mr Pittman and Mr Webster both gave evidence about the conference. Mr Pittman and Mr Webster first learned that the conference was to happen on the evening before, 5 December 2006, when Ms Locke came to their house to share a pizza. All they knew was what Ms Locke told them when she said to Mr Pittman and Mr Webster:
"I need you to sign some documents tomorrow for the transfer of the loan to FMI. Meet me in Richmond at 9.30 tomorrow morning."
146At that stage, Mr Pittman and Mr Webster were not given any detail as to whom they were going to see, nor what the documents were that they had to sign. They were not provided with a copy of the documents. They were not provided with any detail of the financial investments of Ms Locke or the use to which the monies being raised was to be put. They were not told that a much larger sum was being borrowed than was necessary to "transfer the loan" to First Mortgage.
147On the next morning, Mr Pittman and Mr Webster met Ms Locke at a café in Richmond where they had a cup of coffee and something to eat. They went from there to the offices of Christopher Edwards. They met with Ms O'Callaghan. In the course of that conference, they were provided, for the first time, with the documents.
148It is Mr Webster's recollection that Ms Locke was present throughout the conference. Ms O'Callaghan denies that Ms Locke was present. I accept the evidence of Mr Webster on this issue. I am satisfied that she was there to ensure that the documents were all signed so that the transaction would proceed. She also was there to take away and keep, for her records, the copies of the documents. She was also there to deal with any queries raised by either Mr Pittman and Mr Webster.