18 October 2001
17 A meeting was held at Franklins' premises on 18 October 2001. Present at the meeting were Messrs Firmstone and Hyland on behalf of the plaintiff, and Mr King and Ms Koh on behalf of Franklins. The meeting lasted about an hour. At that meeting a document styled "Matters for discussion - meeting 18 October 2001" which had been prepared by Mr Hyland and settled by Mr Firmstone was produced and discussed. Mr Firmstone was informed at that meeting that Franklins was then in the process of a "managed sell down" involving the sale of all of its stores, which would hopefully be completed by the end of 2001 or early 2002, with a view to placing Franklins in voluntary liquidation early in 2002.
18 The document styled "Matters for discussion - meeting of 18 October 2001" contains five items. Items 1, 2 and 3 list opportunities for sales tax refunds from suppliers and from the ATO in relation to:
1. Sales Tax/Capital Equipment and Non-Trading stock items
2. Sales Tax/Unpopped Popping Corn and other specific trading stock
3. Sales Tax/Wine Coolers and Alcoholic sodas
and contains a brief discussion of those opportunities. Item 4 relates to a refund of GST on which the plaintiff was awaiting Franklins' instructions. Item 5 is as follows:
"Tobacco Licence Fees
Opportunity for refund of licence fees paid to tobacco wholesalers prior to the High Court decision in Ha v The State of NSW on 5 August 1997, subject to a favourable decision of the High Court in Roxborough v Rothmans of Pall Mall Australia which is expected before the end of this year.
The attached Position Paper at Appendix B outlines the relevant issues involved."
19 The position paper at Appendix B includes a section headed "Background" from which the material under the heading "Tobacco Licence fees" above is largely taken. The "issue" is identified in the position paper as being whether other retailers can recover tobacco licence fees paid to tobacco wholesalers but not in turn paid by the wholesalers to the various State or Territory revenue offices. The prospective benefit which might be gained by other retailers taking action against the tobacco wholesalers is identified as the recovery of amounts charged by the tobacco wholesalers to the retailers during the period 1 July 1997 to 5 August 1997, but not remitted to the relevant State or Territory revenue offices. The position paper states that if the High Court decides in favour of the retailers in Roxborough the prospects of delivery of that benefit is high. The position paper concludes:
"RECOMMENDED COURSE OF ACTION
We recommend that no action be taken until the High Court delivers its decision in Roxborough. We can see no upside in putting the tobacco wholesalers on notice of your likely claim. If you did this, the wholesalers might be encouraged to settle with Roxborough and the other retailers involved in that case, to avoid the prospect of Roxborough establishing a legal principle against them.
If the High Court decides in favour of the retailers, we will then contact you with our recommendations regarding what you should do."
20 It is common ground that the bulk of the meeting was devoted to consideration of the sales tax items. There was an urgency about the sales tax items, as "stop the clock" letters needed to be sent by 21 November 2001. The discussion of the GST item was short, and it was left on the basis that Mr King would need to follow the item up internally, to see where it was within Franklins, and he would get back to Mr Firmstone about it.
21 The discussion then moved to item 5. Mr Firmstone's estimate, which I accept as a reasonable estimate, is that the discussion of this item occupied about ten minutes. Mr Firmstone's account of that conversation, as given in his affidavit, is as follows:
"Me: 'The next issue we wish to discuss is an issue involving tobacco licence fees which were paid by tobacco retailers such as Franklins to their suppliers in the five weeks prior to the decision of the High Court in the Ha v Hammond case. These fees were not paid by the suppliers to the State Revenue Office and a group of tobacco retailers, headed by a gentleman by the name of Roxborough, has been seeking recovery of these monies through the courts. The amounts involved will be substantial as the licence fee was 100% of the tobacco price.'
King: 'Where is the matter up to and what is involved?'
Me: 'Appendix B which is attached to the Memorandum which I've given you sets this out. In short, Roxborough was lost in the Federal Court, but has been appealed to the High Court and has been heard. A decision is likely before Christmas and we understand that the prospects are reasonable. However, we recommend that you do not take any action involving suppliers until after the High Court hands down its decision. We will monitor the matter and, if the decision favours recovery, we will consider its impact on Franklins and advise you in relation to the way forward. We would then undertake everything necessary to secure the maximum recovery for Franklins at our expense.'"
In cross-examination Mr Firmstone accepted at the end of the meeting that the issue of tobacco licences was left on the basis that there was nothing to do, as it was subject to the High Court's decision in Roxborough.
22 Mr King's account of that discussion, as given in his affidavit is as follows:
"Firmstone: Oh, and there's one final matter. As you can see in point five of the discussion paper, and Appendix B, we have prepared a position paper on the issue of tobacco licence fees. For a five week period in 1997, we may be able to obtain refunds for you of the tax paid on sales of cigarettes. However, the Court action in relation to this matter is currently before the High Court and we will keep you abreast of any result.
There is a six year limitation period.
King: Is any action required by us at this stage?
Firmstone: No - there is nothing for Franklins to do at this stage. We are just letting you know about the possibility of recovering the tobacco licence fees. We will keep you posted of any developments, and we can discuss what action, if any, is required at a later stage."
23 Mr King has no recollection of Mr Firmstone saying that he proposed a fee of 35 per cent of net recoveries as the basis of the plaintiff's fee, although he accepts that this may have occurred. Ms Koh did remember that Mr Firmstone said that the 35 per cent fee would apply to tobacco licence recoveries, and thus supports Mr Firmstone's recollection in this respect.
24 Mr King denies that he asked "how long would it take" or that he said "we would probably be interested in pursuing these matters". His attitude was that tobacco licence fees may or may not be an issue for Franklins later on, depending on the result in Roxborough. There was no immediate need to deal with the matter. "It was made very clear that this is a matter for information only at this stage, no further action or consideration required". Mr King had no idea of the sums of money that might be involved.
25 Mr King's evidence was that in order to give final approval to recover tobacco licence fees he would need to understand the implications for Franklins of the High Court's decision in Roxborough, to ascertain the likely quantum of any recovery, and to discuss the matter with and obtain approval from other Franklins managers, including Mr Hawkins. Mr King took no steps after the meeting to progress the tobacco licence fee matter within Franklins.
26 Mr Hyland's affidavit evidence includes the following:
"The High Court's decision is expected to be handed down before Christmas. Accordingly, at this stage, we don't think that any action needs to be taken. Once the decision comes out, we'll inform you and consider the appropriate action to be taken.
King: 'We would probably be interested in pursuing these matters. I need to talk to some of our people first and I will get back to you.'"
27 Mr Hyland accepted in cross-examination that Mr Firmstone told Mr King there was nothing to do at that stage in relation to the tobacco licence fees matter, and the project was wholly dependent on what might happen in the Roxborough case in the High Court. If the retailers were successful, Firmstones would make recommendations in relation to the project which Franklins were free to accept or reject. There could not be a final decision as things stood at 18 October 2001.
28 Ms Koh's account of this meeting, as given in her affidavit, is:
"Firmstone: As you can see from Appendix B [to the discussion paper], for a five week period in 1997, we may be able to obtain refunds for you of the tax paid on sales of cigarettes. However, the Court action in relation to this matter is currently before the High Court. We will keep you abreast of any result."
In cross-examination, Ms Koh accepted that in the course of discussion on the tobacco licence paper, Mr King told Mr Firmstone that he would need to talk to people within Franklins and he would get back to him. At the end of the meeting Mr King said that "we would probably be interested in pursuing these matters", which she understood as referring to all of the matters discussed at the meeting.
29 It is common ground that at no time during the 18 October 2001 meeting did Mr Firmstone disclose the steps necessary to secure a claim for refunds of tobacco licence fees, or the likely quantum of any recovery of tobacco licence fees. Nor was there any discussion as to who the lawyers might be. Nor did Mr Firmstone say that the plaintiff would indemnify Franklins against any adverse costs order.