Circumstances of Stabbing
63 Mrs Cvetkovic's evidence was that about 10.00am on 6 June 2007 the Appellant telephoned her at work to say he was in Sydney and wanted to meet to discuss the property settlement urgently. Her evidence continued:
"And I told him that well it's not that urgent maybe because we have to go to the bank so I should call the bank and see if we can get any appointment because the fact for me is that I have to see if I can get - how much money I can get and see the whole of my situation and if we need to sign anything then what had to do with the bank because if that is going to happen.
But he just said that no we have to and he said he's going to Chatswood to buy shoes and then I said 'Okay, I'll call the bank and see if we can get any appointment today' because for me it's better to do it formally and properly than just - so we ended the conversation and then I called the bank because we usually go to Commonwealth Bank in Macquarie Shopping Centre so I called them. They couldn't have - they didn't have any time for us so I called him back telling him sorry, that I couldn't get an appointment and I think we should - the best thing is to have appointment with the bank and then we solve everything. But he didn't want, he just said 'No, it has to be - it cannot be delayed anymore, we have to do it now, we have to do it today'. And he said 'I'll come to your work' and then he said he had prepared the document and I knew that it was a document he was talking about how to put - what would happen if we come to an agreement then that would be our agreement." (tp 135-6)
64 Her account of the drive to Macquarie Shopping Centre was:
"I parked right in front of the building because there are two spaces, parking spaces, in front and the back of the building and I parked at the time the front and he wasn't pleased with that. I just - we went to the car, he put the bag on the backseat, I put the paper, because I had this paper with me. I had the paper in my hand so I put also on the back seat and I was the one to drive. We went in the car and then he started 'Why did you park car in front? You usually do the back'. But I told him that it's dark and I feel more safe and the reason I changed was actually because I felt more safe in the front. I was afraid that he may turn up and on the back it's dark and the front is always with lights and would be people, a lot of people going home so I wouldn't be alone and I felt safe, so I said 'Well I feel safe to have car here'. And then I start reversing and then he - he was very angry and he started directing me how I should reverse and he said 'You changed absolutely - you changed and you changed everything', like me, how I look, I changed everything. And then became a little bit scary for me, I was very - felt very uneasy and I was shaking and I just told him 'Please, let me drive, just let me drive'. I wasn't sure, I didn't know I can continue driving so I just said 'Just let me drive'. So I drove--" (tp 136)
65 Mrs Cvetkovic's evidence about events at the shopping centre after parking the car was:
"… then we decided because we didn't have an appointment so we decided we are going to have lunch and then after lunch we will go into the bank and see if we can talk to anyone. We went to McDonalds, that's where the food court is. There was a table in the corner I remember so we sat there and there was a lot of people there, kids and we were talking. I ate my food, he didn't eat much and he was just talking about the past and how he would want us to come - to get back together and then we shouldn't forget when we were students and all the good things that happened and - but I didn't want to talk about that, I kept saying to him that 'I don't want to talk about that. We are here to discuss this document and that's why I met you'. But at some stage he even took my hand and said 'Oh, hold my hand so remember when we were at uni'. It was so scary, so he's pulled out of my hand after maybe a minute or less, I just couldn't, my hands were sweating and I didn't - I did not - like I didn't want to talk about the past or anything because there wasn't us anymore. I just wanted to finish what he want - what he said that he want to talk to me and that's all, and go back to work. So we just like talking and talking on and on and on about the same thing and in the end we finished lunch and we left McDonalds and then he said that - I remember him saying that people that he called the bank when he was in Chatswood and he said that they are going to call him back, but they didn't so he decided 'Okay, that's enough, we are not going to the bank today' basically.
So we continue walking towards car park. We came like the car, I was - like but at that stage I really felt I just wanted to go back to work and I didn't feel comfortable anymore and I was really tired and I said 'Oh, I'm so tired and I have to drive. I had enough today'. He offered to drive but I said no, I said because he doesn't have a licence, it was suspended, and the other thing that I was just thinking 'Woah, if he drives then he will be the one in control and he'll be driving the car and I wouldn't know what's going to happen'. I don't want to let myself without the - into his control because I know he tread on me so many times so I - so I said 'No". I was in driver's seat and he opened the door and then he's a tall man and he had his briefcase with him and he put briefcase in the front which he never does. Like he's always everything is on the backseat. He put it in the front seat, he tried to squeeze in. He sat in the bag, tried to squeeze his legs and because there is not much space.
CROWN PROSECUTOR
Q. When you say he put the bag in the front, whereabouts did he put it?
A. He put it in front - in front of front seat, in front of his legs basically because he was in the seat and then the bag is in front of his knees, so it was like really not enough so he tried to squeeze the bag and I was looking thinking 'Why is he doing this? This has never like happened before'. But it didn't occur to me like what is going to happen, I just was surprised. So I put the belt and I wanted to start the car thinking this is time for me to go to work because we'd been at McDonalds for a while, an hour or more, just so I thought that 'Well this is time for me to go back'. I was just about to start the car and he says 'Oh, don't do this, don't start the car. We have to talk, we have to resolve our financial situation'. And I said 'Well, you know, I have to go to work' and then he kept - he kept asking me - I told him again that this - 'I can be friend to you, we are not going back so that's it. It's finished between us'. Then he asked me 'So what do you want to do with the house? Like it's not fair deal'. And I said "All I want is to have that house, to keep that house so Alex can have some security because you never know what can happen and it would be good for her to have something. He said yes, that's what he wanted. And then I started like - I remember the time - I was getting really nervous because I wanted to go back and I looked at the car - the clock, and I think it was two past two.
I remember, you know, what I saw and I said "Oh, it's already 2 o'clock I really have to do - to go'. And he said 'God, give me a couple of more minutes, what's a couple of minutes compared with your whole life?' And I said 'Look if I don't go - like I want to go'. He said 'We must resolve our financial situation' and then I thought well if I don't go I can lose my job and my financial situation is going to be even worse so I wanted to go. And I said 'Oh, look I have to go'. And then we stopped talking because I didn't have anything else to say. I just wanted to go desperately. And then I saw him, he leant down, reaching towards his bag. And because the bag was standing so I could see the piece of paper that I gave him sticking out in the pocket and I thought because he was reaching his bag and I thought that he wants this piece of paper so I said 'Look, we can do this some other time. I really have to go. Like let's do it another time and sign and finish'.
And then he turned towards me and then I just saw the knife blade coming towards my stomach and I - I just couldn't believe what was happen so I tried to stop and then I realised that this is happening; this is not like nothing that I'm dreaming, this is happening because then I felt - I tried to stop it and then I felt blood running from my neck on my top was a lot of blood and then I wanted to go out so I turned to open the door but I kept like this belt was here and I couldn't - I tried to let the belt off, I tried to open the door, I couldn't and whenever I would turn I could feel him like stabbing me, hitting me, hitting me in my back, like I could feel - and then - then I realised well that's not dreaming, that's like my life I'm going to end up like this, that's not happening. And I tried to protect myself because whichever way I turned, if I turned to open the door, if I turned to tell him to stop like he'll constantly - he'll continue hitting me so I try and hold the knife and - I remember trying to hold the knife away from my face, from my body, and I - at some stage I like was trying to open the door and I could feel his hand holding my hands for a short time and then he like, like my hand go - you do just hold tight and that's it. And then I turned again to him saying 'Please, stop this. If you want me I'm back'. Because at that stage I realised that what he was saying - like the reason - I don't want to die.
I was almost ready to give up but then I thought I have my daughter and that's the only thing and I kept thinking about her and thinking that I have to live for her so that gave me kind of strength to go back and say 'Please, if you want me just - I'm back. Take me, I'm back'. Because I thought if he wants me he'll let me live, or he'll stop doing that. And then I remember that at some stage I saw someone coming towards the car and I could hear him 'Oi' or something 'Stop' or - and then I start screaming for help and I kept telling him 'Please stop. Please stop, we have our child. Just look please stop for our daughter. Stop this. Don't do this'. But he wasn't saying anything, he just kept hitting me all the time in the front and my back without saying anything and then I don't remember - I know I went - I got out the car but how I do not remember but I remember being out of the car and just a man coming and picking me up, helping me and he put me lying on the ground." (tp 137-139)
66 Her account of the Appellant's manner of speaking when they were in the car was:
"Calm. He wasn't yelling, he wasn't argumentative, he was trying to talk to me normally as, you know, he appealed to resolve things, a little bit nervous and, pushy because he kept saying 'Now we have to separate' but this was conversation he wasn't yelling at me because if he started yelling I probably would run out before it happened but he was just talking to me." (tp 140)
67 Her evidence also included:
"Q. Whereabouts was the knife when you first saw it?
A. When I first saw it, it was in his hand going towards my stomach, so it was the height of, when he stood up with his hand because I was just watching, looking at him and he stood up and I could see the blade coming to my stomach, so that was then how I saw it. I tried to somehow push but, for me it was kind of something not real, I saw it but it didn't occur to my mind what's happening, it was just a blur.
Q. As you've demonstrated that, you've shown yourself putting your two hands out with your--
A. Yes.
Q. --fingers and palms facing upwards at about stomach height or rib height?
A. Yes.
Q. When you did that did you actually touch something, what did you do with your hands?
A. Well I tried to push the knife and his hands to stop but then I, I use, I also did that after, after that happened when I tried to, to stop him from stabbing but at that time I literally caught blade so I have, I cut my, my hands and my fingers but I, I was holding the blade to just." (tp 141)
68 It also included:
"Q. At any stage from when he'd first taken the knife out of that bag, do you recall if he said anything in the car?
A. No, he didn't say anything because he wasn't talking at all, he was just hitting me.
Q. Are you able to say anything in relation to how his facial expression appeared?
A. Not much, I noted, I, I looked at him and was trying to stop him but just kind of nothing in particular that I would remember, just looked calm, like. And I, I tried actually, I tried not to be looking at his face and I tried to see where his hand with the knife is going so I can protect myself." (tp 159)
69 In cross-examination Mrs Cvetkovic confirmed that it was unusual for her to drive the car with her husband as passenger,
"… [W]henever I drop him, whenever I would drop him off he could never ever put things in front of his legs, he's taller and there is no place. He usually puts things on the back of the seat even when I drive him." (tp 525)
70 She confirmed the correctness of a statement that she had made in her police statement:
"Dragan was not saying a word, Dragan just continued to try and stab me. Dragan was stabbing me which ever way I was facing."
71 She also confirmed the correctness of a statement that she had made in an affidavit to the Family Court:
"Mr Cvetkovic reached for his briefcase and pulled out what appeared to be a 20 inch serrated knife. I froze in terror, it was surreal. Mr Cvetkovic then drove the knife into my stomach. He remained silent the entire time. He then slashed my neck with the knife horizontally across my throat and then started to repeatedly stab me on my upper left breast and my upper left shoulder. I tried to grab the knife from Mr Cvetkovic with my hands." (tp 531)
72 She rejected a suggestion put to her that she touched the blade before she had sustained any injury (tp 535).
73 Another portion of her evidence was:
"Q. … In your statement and the affidavit, as well as in your oral evidence to this court, you left out the faze [sic] when your husband had both his legs up and was kicking you, didn't you?
A. Because I don't remember if that happened at all, that he was kicking me with his legs up."
74 By comparison with the elaborate cross-examination that had taken place concerning collateral matters relating to the general credibility of Mrs Cvetkovic, and the circumstances of the incident that was the subject of the first charge, the cross-examination of Mrs Cvetkovic concerning the events at Macquarie Shopping Centre on 6 June 2007 was extremely brief.
75 The Appellant's evidence was that on the evening of 4 June, after a meeting in which Mr Diamond told the Appellant that he had not received a deed of release from the second defendant in the civil action, he went back to his hotel room, and contemplated jumping from the window. His evidence was that he had contemplated suicide the previous May, by taking sleeping tablets, and had procured the tablets, but did not carry the plan through. His evidence about the evening of 4 June was:
"Even if I could open the window I wouldn't dare to jump. So I went back to bed and I continued thinking I should go the next morning to Ashfield and buy a tool to open the window. I could have smashed the window with a chair, I could have jumped from anywhere, the point being, and my feeling and it was not to end life, but to ease or to release the pressure that I was feeling at that particular time.
So in the morning I went to Ashfield, my going to Ashfield, whether that was going to Ashfield or whether that was new morning or new day, it released the pressure, but since I was anyway in the Ashfield I went in the shop, into Bunnings, and I didn't have clear idea what to buy. I went around looked several things, and on my way out from the tool section it was a table selling cheap things, or on sale things, and I found out this device, it was in quite large box with window. I thought that would do, I thought even that I could stab myself. But again, that was neither my focus was on opening the window, neither my focus was on using that knife. Probably one of the reasons why I bought that tool was that it was cheap, it was less than $10 if I could remember, $7, $8." (tp 1724)
76 He agreed his sole purpose in going to Ashfield on 5 June was to buy a tool (tp 1788).
77 His account of the immediate circumstances of the stabbing was:
"At that time, when she was to start the car, I asked her to stay, not to go. I ask her I hoped that I would be able to say something more and to probably change something. She said that she has to go, she said that she cannot stay any longer and for a while both of us were quiet. The representation that at that time she said to me that she would go - she would sign document and that was representation that basically was during the lunch time. But it didn't matter.
But I was not finding what else to say, simply all I had I told my wife and at that time the document, that agreement, was protruding a little bit from the back pocket and I wanted to take the document and just to reinstate conversation to have something to talk about and probably that last link about that property which was issue from February. I hoped that it would keep our conversation or keep our relationship or whatever.
At the time when I went to the bag I saw the knife behind the document. I pushed the pocket open and I took the knife. That was something that happened in that second, second going for that document, second seeing the knife and getting idea to tell her why I got the knife and probably to use this as a further argument to either maintain or to get sympathy - maintain the relationship or get sympathy from her or - and when I took that knife, the knife I was holding in my left hand, the blade was pointing upwards, it was close to me. It never went towards Sladjana.
I did not make any movement with that knife, it was just like this, that was all. It was a second or two from the time that I took the knife to the time that she grabbed for the knife. And the last what I remember, the last feeling, the last impression that I was trying, it is not fear, it is not, it is a feeling of, there is no word that I can find in English. It is something when, when it happens, it, you, you have that reaction, you're stuck or you're, and I remember her firmly holding for the knife. That is last what I remember.
I remember the next thing is huge pressure on my back and it was on the right-hand side, me having difficulties to breathe, I tried to move, I couldn't. I remember someone saying to me not to move that I slashed my throat and all the sudden I got images of my wife and I sitting in the car, me having the knife, my wife grabbing the knife and I was, that is a feeling of I should run, run, that is the feeling that I, I can describe."
78 In cross-examination he gave a somewhat more detailed account of events immediately after he had taken the knife from the bag:
"Q. So your wife is on your right hand side in the motor vehicle, you're saying you're holding the knife in your left hand--
A. Yes.
Q. --right in front of your left arm.
A. Yes.
Q. Your wife has reached across--
A. Facing--
Q. --from the driver's seat to that knife and grabbed it; is that what you're telling this court?
A. Facing my wife with the knife, my wife being 40, 50 centimetre or how - that is the position of the knife, that is the position of my wife so the - or it is shorter even if you think the seats are 10 centimetres away, my wife sitting here, the knife sitting here, that would be probably between my wife and the knife 60 centimetres.
Q. So are you telling the jury that you're not sitting straight in your seat you've turned and angled towards your wife in the car; is that what you're saying? You've got to stay near the microphone; is that what you're saying, yes or no?
A. Taking the bag was aside my left leg, left knee. I went to the bag, I took and I turned, that was all. And the distance in the car you can imagine so the whole from the bag that was probably distance of half a metre and that is all." (tp 1801)
79 He said again that the last thing he remembered was his wife grabbing for the knife, "grabbing and holding it firmly" (tp 1802).
80 Concerning his interview with police on the afternoon of the stabbing, he said:
"… from that interview I know bits and pieces. What I expressed to them was what I believed at that time was happened. What I expressed to them was either my belief or my fear that this had happened. I knew that I was suicidal, I knew why I bought the knife, or one of the reasons why I bought that knife, although at that time it was, I would never say that I would be ever in my life to, to harm myself in that way. I am the person that I would use poison, I am the person that I would use drugs to kill myself but I would never use knife or anything similar. And when I said about sleeping tablets and taking sleeping tablets and going for drowning the reason was that I would be sedated and easily accept going for swimming and drowning.
So my, what I told to police and what is in that interview, it is the state of mind that was at that time, which is also relevant and that would solve one issue in these proceedings, was about me and my ability to understand whether harming anyone was right or wrong. To the very point of the incident, and to the very point after I, I regained my consciousness when I was at the floor there was no doubt that to harm anyone was wrong. It was wrong to think it was, it was wrong to do, so it was not something that could be ascribed to depression or to the fact of my thinking or the fact of my thought. Since that day, in my memory I had gape [sic: gap?] for the whole day after the incident." (tp 1728)
81 His evidence also included the following passages:
"During that time in hospital I had few flashbacks from the, from the incident itself. One of flashbacks was my wife rushing out of the car, the other one was me seeing white skin of my stomach.
… my wife's grabbing for the knife and screaming, I wouldn't describe as causing me fear or any type of emotion that would be equivalent to what now I would consider as appropriate emotion seeing someone grabbing with a bare hand for the blade and that was the puzzle from the - for all these two years for me.
In the hospital, as I said, I had, and that is the only memory that I have of that event, is her rushing out of the car and me then seeing white skin of my stomach then in the car leaving and a policeman pointing with the gun at me and me crashing. Then they spraying me and these are memories that I get - I got in terms of flashbacks during that hospitalisation in the Royal North Shore Hospital and then later on whilst being in the hospital in prison in D ward." (tp 1729)
82 He said he only learnt about the extent of his wife's injuries by being told it when he was in the prison hospital.
83 The Appellant said unequivocally:
"I never intended to harm my wife. I never intended, or I never consider before the incident any downturn in my life or anything that would affect my life detrimentally, even that purchase of that, that knife or too I did this as a, as an awkward way of dealing with the stress and feeling self-pity, you could say I was seeking attention, if not from anyone else, but from myself."
GROUND 1 - CONVICTION UNREASONABLE OR UNSUPPORTED BY EVIDENCE
84 The first ground of appeal is that the verdict of the jury was unreasonable or unsupported by the evidence. The Appellant submits that, on the whole of the evidence, it was not open to the jury to be satisfied beyond reasonable doubt that the Appellant was guilty: M v R (1994) 181 CLR 487 at 493.
85 The Appellant divides the ground into two sub-grounds