The Hearing At First Instance
16At the hearing before the Commissioner (Transcript is at tab 2 of vol 3, fols 747-851), Mr Clay of counsel appeared for the applicant company, Wilson Parking, as he did for it as respondent to the present appeal, while the Council was represented by in-house solicitor, Mr M Fozzard.
17The learned Commissioner commenced the hearing on site, so there were no opening statements on resumption in the courtroom, where she received the Council's exhibits, including joint expert reports of planners and traffic engineers, and those of the applicant, including its own experts' principal reports. She dealt with some objections, clarifications etc, and then Mr Fozzard outlined the various documents, including the relevant instruments, with commentary by Mr Clay.
18Mr Fozzard, in his opening, stated that the issue dealing with cl 66(2) (quoted in [14] above) was his primary contention. He was asked by the Commissioner how the restriction in cl 66(2) should be interpreted (T17.6.10, pp16-17):
" COMMISSIONER: No. Sorry, I'm just jumping back, I'm still thinking. In relation to what you just said to me in about car parking the effect of cl 66(2), I think that's the correct clause?
FOZZARD: Yes, commissioner. Yes.
COMMISSIONER: It's the need for the parking because if I'm satisfied there's a need, having regard to what that clause tells me is the requisite need, then I can satisfy that condition, is that right?
FOZZARD: No, commissioner. That's where I think that's the applicant's position. I say that's the wrong application of that clause. You don't look at if there is a need, you look to see what's being serviced by the public transport first. So your starting point is, what's the public transport and what is the existing public car park.
As I understand the applicant's evidence is that the car park is being used and therefore demonstrates a demand and I don't say that that's the correct reading of the passage/
COMMISSIONER: The correct reading of the passage according to you is, if there's not reasonable or adequate service by public transport or existing car parking, you can approve the new?
FOZZARD: Yes, commissioner, I agree, that's what I'm trying to emphasise to the Court."
19Experts Stass, Cheng, Coady and Marshall, then gave concurrent evidence for some time (see T17.6.10, pp30-67 and T18.6.10, pp7-23, fols 776-836 - Mr Staas withdrew (at Tp43, L40), before Ms Cheng (at Tp52, L19)).
20Before the Commissioner, and during the hearing of this s 56A appeal, Mr Clay drew attention to the needs of commuters who purchase larger items (retail being one of the uses being met under cl 66(2) - T17.6.10, pp62-63):
" CLAY: And they could carry their new G3 Apple computer home in the bus can they, is that what they should be doing?
WITNESS MARSHALL: Well I've seen plenty of people carrying them on the train. I don't travel by bus very often but--
CLAY: Mr Marshall, you accept that there are very good reasons why people need to drive to the city from time to time, correct?
WITNESS MARSHALL: There are, yes.
CLAY: You accept, don't you, that public transport whatever its virtues isn't the right mode of transport for everyone on every occasion, correct?
WITNESS MARSHALL: Yes, I accept that.
CLAY: And if for example you need to go to the city to go to the Apple store let's say and then go somewhere else afterwards, Canterbury, wherever, public transport's not going to be the go, is it--
WITNESS MARSHALL: I accept that. If you've got multiple trip ins then a car is the best mode of transport.
CLAY: And it's multiple trips, it's not reasonable to require that to be done by public transport, correct?
WITNESS MARSHALL: No, I'm not - I've never suggested that all of the trips should be made by public transport. What I've said is that there's adequate car parking in the City of Sydney for those people who want to use a car for whatever reason.
CLAY: The circumstances of that car parking may well mean that it is unreasonable for the purpose of that person coming to whatever retail or other opportunity they're coming to in the city, correct? But they've got to use it even if it's unreasonable.
WITNESS MARSHALL: Well there is a certain level of inconvenience I suppose with any car parking. You won't find it next door to where you want to go.
CLAY: Yes. I'm sorry, that is my I-Pad giving me an alarm about the meeting with the Chief Judge. I haven't learnt yet how to deal with the alarm system."
21The Commissioner then heard closing submissions (Tp24-38, fols 837-851). In the present appeal, Mr Clay referred to the manner in which the SEPP 1 issue was presented below by the Council. He particularly identified the closing submissions of Mr Fozzard, where he stated (T18.06.10, p31, LL19-23):
" FOZZARD: Commissioner, if I can take the shortest matters first. In regard to the SEPP 1 objection, I've never pressed it as being the largest most determinative issue of the proceedings, but I think that that's well articulated in the statement of evidence of Ms Cheng. The Court has those, I'm not going to take you to it again. I appreciate the Court knows the Winton (sic) test ...".
22The Commissioner again asked Mr Fozzard, later in his submissions, how the restriction under cl 66(2) should be interpreted (at T18.6.10, pp33-34):
" FOZZARD: Yes Commissioner, but it's about the servicing to the enumerated uses. The train system and the bus system, you need evidence that they're inadequate and there's no evidence.
COMMISSIONER: But I have that evidence, that there will be people who will not find adequate the existing public transport.
FOZZARD: That doesn't make the buses and the trains inadequate, it just means that people use it otherwise. There will always be otherwise.
COMMISSIONER: But it is inadequate for that particular person who is not serviced by that existing need.
FOZZARD: There will always be someone such as a disabled who won't use public transport.
COMMISSIONER: Yes.
FOZZARD: That doesn't mean that the service doesn't adequately service the enumerated uses. That is to say that the transport system is inadequate always because it doesn't service everybody, and that's just not the case on the evidence is that - there is no contradictory evidence to say that the Wynyard Station and the buses are working adequately."
23Mr Fozzard also submitted to the Commissioner that cl 66(2) contains prerequisites that must be met before the consent authority can approve new car parks (T18.06.10, p37):
" FOZZARD: ... My thrust of my submission again is that it's accepted that there are existing public spaces available within close proximity of the site. So we place a heavy emphasis on 66(2) Commissioner and we say that what that clause is asking you to do is to look at public transport, look at the existing public spaces in the area, if they service the enumerated uses then you must refuse the consent of this.
COMMISSIONER: No, that's where I really disagree, it says consent may be granted, there's no "must" there, is there Mr Fozzard?
FOZZARD: Unless - the "may" operates that only when you form the requisite standard that they're not reasonably and adequately served ."
24The Commissioner delivered her judgment orally on the next working day, 21 June 2010, and it was subsequently published - [2010] NSWLEC 1204 (the published version of the Commissioner's judgment is before the court at tab 1 of Vol 3, fols 732-746).