91 In cross-examination on the voir dire Professor Henderson gave this evidence:
Q. One way of trying to answer the question, if it were possible, would be to conduct experiments, that is set up a spraying machine of the relevant type, position somebody in the relevant distance away and measure what the dust counts were.
A. That's correct.
Q. But it is not possible to do that anymore, is it.
A. No because the whole spraying operation has been banned.
Q. So the only way in which one can do it in a scientific way, if it is possible at all, is to look at figures that have been reported in scientific publications or tests that have been done in the past, would you agree.
A. That's correct. (Black 40.H-U)
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Q. May I refer to that exercise, that is, trying to identify what a particular individual's level of exposure has been to dust historically as a historical dust assessment, can I just use that terminology, and that is something that you have seen done frequently in litigation of this sort in the Tribunal, have you not.
A. Yes, people have made estimates of whether the exposure levels are high, medium or very low.
Q. People have gone beyond that, have they not, because you have seen reports from people in which they have gone through and attempted to actually calculate in numerical terms what the exposure level was in fibres per millimetre.
A. Well yes and it's been based on the prevailing scientific evidence and I've seen people then try to calculate from the inverse square or like what the exposure levels might at varying distances away have been, but they don't take into account, as you've indicated, some of the particular or peculiar circumstances of the workplace situation where the exposure occurred.
Q. At all events, you yourself have not carried out - have not produced any such report for the purpose of proceedings of this type, have you.
A. Such report, what do you mean?
Q. A report of that type, namely one which goes through the scientific literature and tries to make an assessment of what a person's - tries to make a numerical assessment of what a person's asbestos exposure was in the past. My point is, the question is, you have seen such reports, but you yourself have not done such a report, have you.
A. Well, I have seen them and I have done that sort of thing bases on the scientific evidence. In fact, I think I've done it in this case where I suggested there was a high probability of airborne fibre concentrations in the range of 10 to 50 fibres per millimetre and that is a very conservative estimate based on the literature.
Q. In order to prepare such a report one needs to be familiar with the historical literature as to the dust produced by particular processes, correct.
A. That's correct.
Q. You claim to have a full knowledge of that literature.
A. I don't claim to have a full knowledge, I claim to have a reasonably extensive knowledge of the literature, but I can't guarantee that I have read each and every paper ever published on this subject.
Q. Would you agree with me that in order to express a scientific opinion in the context of spraying, it would be necessary to have read every single available paper which had reported results for spraying.
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OBJECTION - QUESTION ALLOWED
A. No, I don't agree because I can't, for example, exclude the fact that there may have been some paper published in Czechoslovakia in 1935 or something like this. Every scientist does, to some extent, select the literature that he or she cites in reports and what I try to do in my various reports is to go to mainstream reports and reviews of other reports and to indicate what the likely airborne asbestos fibre concentration might have been." (Black 41.J-42.G)
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"MR PARKER: Q. What I wanted to suggest to you is that it is the job of an industrial hygienist to be familiar with all of the scientific literature on this question. Although you have some familiarity with the scientific literature, do not have the sort of familiarity that an industrial hygienist would have. Do you agree with that.
MR NEIL: I object.
HIS HONOUR: He can answer that, I will allow it.
WITNESS: It depends on the industrial hygienist, whether you are talking about a particular one or industrial hygienists generally. But again in my reports I have often taken into account the reports from industrial hygienists such as Dr Eva Francis, who has been involved in this sort of assessment. But I do not carry out the measurements myself, but I am aware in numerous scientific publications of the sort of airborne fibre concentrations or the range of them produced by particular activities." (Black 45.J-Q)
92 Professor Henderson went on to explain that he relied upon the published figures given by occupational hygienists. (Black 47.D-E) The evidence continued:
"Q. That is because you recognise you do not have the scientific expertise and the familiarity with the literature to justify yourself expressing an opinion on that question. Correct.
A. No, that is not correct because I am not trying to express an opinion on what Professor Rowley or any other persons. Cumulative exposure would have been in terms of fibres per millilitre years. All I am saying is that from an activity known to have generated high peak airborne fibre concentrations. It would have been roughly in this ball park to say 10 to 50 per millilitre, yes. Per millilitre without any index of cumulative exposure. All I am trying to say is the exposure would have been intense although it was brief and I have not attempted any calculation of what the quantum of Professor Rowley's cumulative exposure might have been.
Q. That is because you recognise you do not have the qualifications, study and experience to express such an opinion.
MR NEIL: I object. He has just answered that.
HIS HONOUR: I will allow it.
WITNESS: I do not entirely agree. But if he wants to say that Professor Rowley was there for say 15 minutes and exposed to an airborne fibre concentration of 100 fibres per millilitre of air, then I can do a calculation of what it might have been in fibres per millilitre years because that's a very straightforward situation. But I try not to intrude into that territory. All I tried to indicate is, spraying is known to have generated high peak airborne fibre concentrations.
MR PARKER: Q. What assumption did you make in expressing the opinions in answer to questions 4 and 5 as to whether it was asbestos alone or asbestos mixed with something else.
A. I didn't express an opinion, Mr Parker, because if you look further on in my report to question 6, I have indicated if the materials used for the spraying process comprised asbestos and water only with no mixed cement dust, and then I have commented on the presence of visible clouds of dust, and I have then indicated, 'however if the hopper for the spraying machine contained a mixture of both cement and asbestos the situation becomes more complex because cement dust particles could have contributed the clouds of visible dust' so I have addressed that type of situation in my report I believe." (Black 47.F-T)
93 Professor Henderson was at the date of trial the Professor of Anatomical Pathology, Flinders University of South Australia and Senior Consultant in Anatomical Pathology at the Flinders Medical Centre, South Australia. Professor Henderson has extensive experience in the study of asbestos related lung conditions. (Blue 1830 - 1883) He has authored many journal articles on topics associated with mesothelioma and he has been an invited participant at many international conventions which have addressed issues to do with this condition.