After that passage I quoted from the judgment of Hodgson JA in R v Dib [2003] NSWCCA 117 in which his Honour noted that pleas coming late in the proceedings will have less utilitarian effect and, therefore, attract a lesser discount.
16 I do not understand how the underlined passage of my judgment applies to the facts in this case. Clearly the applicant could have indicated a willingness to plead guilty to some charges early in the proceedings. He did not have to wait until the Crown was in a position to go to trial in order to enter into negotiations. If he chooses to wait to see what the Crown is going to do at trial then clearly the utilitarian value of the pleas is less. He knew what offences he had committed even if the Crown was not in a position to prosecute him for those matters. If the accused waits as a matter of tactics before entering negotiations with the Crown then so be it, but he does not obtain the advantage of the full utilitarian value of an early plea.
17 At the hearing of the application, counsel for the applicant submitted that the Judge should have taken into account that whole history of the matter including the various charges that the Crown laid at different times during the period of the prosecution that did not find their way on to the final indictment. In my opinion none of this history changes the situation that the applicant knew what offences he had committed and what he was prepared to acknowledge whether the Crown had chosen to charge him with those offences or not. It is not unusual for persons to acknowledge to the authorities guilt of offences uncharged against them in an effort to clear the record and, as a result, be rewarded with what is known as an Ellis discount. A discount of 15 per cent was more than appropriate to meet the situation in this case.
18 The second ground relied upon by the applicant Sullivan is that the sentence is manifestly excessive. Complaint is made about the sentence imposed for count 1, the offence in respect of which the Form 1 matters were taken into account, as well as the overall sentence imposed. Her Honour structured the sentences by imposing fixed term sentences for each of counts 2, 9, 6, 7 and 8 with the sentences for the first two counts commencing on 22 October 2007 and those for the later three counts on 22 April 2008. Her Honour then imposed a sentence totalling 3 years for the offence in count 1 to commence from 22 October 2009 with a non-parole period of 1 year 3 months.
19 The submission is that the sentence for count 1 is itself manifestly excessive. I do not accept that submission. The maximum penalty for the offence was imprisonment for 12 years. There was a similar offence on the Form 1. The firearms offence also on the Form 1 was itself a serious one even if it could have been dealt with in the Local Court. The applicant possessed a firearm from which the identifying marks had been removed. Accepting that the offence for which he was sentenced was part of a business that the applicant was operating for a period of about 2 years in re-birthing and selling motor vehicles, it is impossible to my mind to view a sentence of 3 years as manifestly excessive. Clearly her Honour adopted the approach recognised in Johnson v The Queen [2004] HCA 15; 78 ALJR 616 when sentencing for the other offences, that is by reducing the sentence that would otherwise be appropriate because of accumulating them to reach an appropriate total sentence.
20 It is submitted that the Judge failed to take into account the effect of delay upon the applicant in accordance with the principles in R v Todd (1982) 2 NSWLR 517 and approved in Mill v The Queen (1988) 166 CLR 59. The complaint is that her Honour failed to have regard to the evidence of the psychologist, Mr Jacmon, that "clearly supported a finding that the applicant's mental health problems were at least partly attributable to the delay in the proceedings".
21 The short answer to this complaint is that there is nothing in the psychological report that suggests that the applicant's mental health has deteriorated because of the delay in the prosecution of the offences. No such submission was made to the Judge. The psychologist states that the applicant was depressed and anxious at the time of offending and his mental health "took a downturn" after he was charged. Although there was a suicide attempt in 2006 there is nothing to suggest that this had anything to do with delay in the prosecution. It should of course be recalled that the applicant committed a further offence while on bail in 2006. It seems that from his release to bail in 2006 he was in constant employment and in 2007 was working in Western Australia. The references from his employers and others that knew him do not suggest that the applicant was suffering by reason of delay but to the contrary was showing himself to be an excellent employee. This is supported by inquiries made by the officer preparing the pre-sentence report. The treating psychologist in 2006, Ms Gibson, thought that his incarceration would have exacerbated the symptoms of his disorder and led to the suicide attempt.
22 This was not a case where the decision in Todd had any particular relevance. That decision is not authority for the proposition that delay will always result in mitigation of sentence: see R v V (1998) 99 A Crim R 297. It is clearly a matter to be taken into account that an offence was committed many years before sentencing and that over the period of time the offender and his or her circumstances may have changed. In some cases the delay will have worked to the offender's benefit and he or she obtains the advantage of that benefit in the determination of the sentence. But as I have already indicated, it apparently suited the applicant to allow the proceedings to go on as they did because he was not prepared to plead guilty until the Crown was in a position to go to trial. If he was left "in a state of uncertain suspense" by reason of the delay, see Todd at 519, it could only have been about how many charges the Crown was going to be able to prove. The delay could have been overcome at any time by the applicant admitting to some or all of the offences charged against him. In any event in the applicant's case any significance of the effect of delay rather lost its impact once he had reoffended in 2006.
23 Reference was made to the decision of this Court in R v Darwiche [1999] NSWCCA 293 and Mason v R [2007] NSWCCA 32 as indicating that the present sentences were in the overall excessive. In my opinion they provide no assistance to the applicant. They are merely exercises of discretion by other judges to specific factual situations much less serious than in the present case.
24 The only remarkable feature about the sentences imposed on the applicant by her Honour was that he received such a lenient sentence for the offence (count 9) committed in 2006 while on bail. With respect, I do not understand how her Honour thought that a fixed term of 2 years was appropriate for that offence or that it should to be served concurrently with the offence in count 2 that was committed in 2002. In my opinion the applicant was fortunate in the way her Honour dealt with this offence and the sentence could have been more severe and yet have been within her discretion.
25 There is in my view no merit in the complaints made by the applicant Sullivan and his appeal should be dismissed.
26 The applicant Skillin initially raised three grounds of appeal but Mr Maiden SC, who appeared at the hearing, no longer relied upon them. In particular there was no longer any suggestion that the Judge should have imposed a non-custodial sentence as had been argued in the written submissions.
27 The submission before this Court was in effect that the overall sentence imposed upon the applicant was manifestly excessive having regard to the applicant's subjective case, and in particular his attempts at compensating two of the victims and his rehabilitation over the period of delay before he pleaded guilty. Reliance was placed upon her Honour's finding that the applicant was unlikely to reoffend.
28 Much of the argument was directed to a comparison of the sentences imposed upon this applicant and the applicant Sullivan, although Mr Maiden eschewed any ground based upon disparity. The applicant of course had one less offence than his co-offender and there was not present the aggravating features that applied in the case of Sullivan. However Sullivan had the issue of his mental health to be taken into account as a matter of mitigation. The applicant's good character had little significance in light of the fact that he was being sentenced for multiple offences committed over a very significant period of time. The applicant received a lesser sentence than Sullivan and in my view could not have any sense of grievance from the sentencing outcomes, even though the applicant Sullivan could have received a harsher sentence than he did because of the offence committed on bail.
29 In my opinion, in light of the seriousness of the criminal conduct of the applicant in being engaged in, what was to all intent and purposes, a business of re-birthing motor vehicles for profit over a significant period of time, the sentences had to be sufficiently severe to reflect denunciation and general deterrence to a very significant degree. Those matters had to take priority in the determination of the sentence over any acknowledgment of the applicant's efforts at reform and his attempt, limited as it was, to compensating the victims of his crimes. Mr Maiden acknowledged that this was a balancing exercise. It was one to be carried out by the Judge and I am not satisfied that her Honour got the balance wrong.
30 In case the sentences imposed upon the applicant are used in the future for the purposes of assessing other sentences that have been or are to be imposed upon offenders for like crimes, I indicate my opinion that the sentence imposed upon Sullivan was probably inadequate and the sentence imposed upon Skillin was lenient.
31 I propose that in respect of both applicants leave to appeal be granted but the appeal be dismissed.