There is no doubt that there were transactions relating to permits under input controls. Family transfers were expressly permitted. Compassionate transfers were allowed. There were private arrangements including sales, leases and other contractual devices which enabled third parties to operate licences although not authorised by AFMA. These were called "under the table" transactions or "grey" transactions in the hearing. I am not sure to what extent transactions such as these, whose object was apparently to subvert the system, should then be taken into account by the very regulator whose system was being subverted, in deciding how a system of input controls should be converted to a system of output controls. It does not seem to me particularly relevant that AFMA did not vigorously root out and prevent these breaches, if that is what they were. Unlawful conduct does not become lawful because the regulator does not act vigorously to prevent it. Nevertheless, I find that there were transactions of this kind.
The more important question is not whether there were transactions, nor whether they could be used to determine a value for a permit, but what should flow from a positive finding. I have taken into account the potentiality for such sales in my above consideration but I have not found that finding a market value is of particular significance. If I had found it significant to find some market value for a permit from the kinds of transactions I have referred to, I would have found that the evidence was too slight to come to any positive finding. The transactions which were before the Tribunal were too few and so lacking in detail that no reliable conclusions could be drawn.
I will summarise the evidence and my findings relating to transactions in permits prior to the introduction of the quota system. The evidence before me on these matters was much more particular than the evidence before SM Handley and Mr Ermert.
There were twelve approvals to sell permits on compassionate grounds. Five approvals were granted upon the death of the permit holder. The others were granted because of terminal or serious illness on the part of the permit holder or spouse. Nine approvals for lease were granted on compassionate grounds. They were all due to serious illness. AFMA records show virtually no details of sale prices or rental payments. The evidence of Mr Jeremy Semkiw of AFMA shows that compassionate transfers were not readily approved. Mr Doran gave evidence of a refusal to approve a transfer by a person who had medical advice to give up fishing because of unsteadiness following a brain haemorrhage.
One transaction which was the subject of evidence before me was a purchase by Peter Riseley. He bought a boat and licence package in 1996, which had AFMA approval, on compassionate grounds. He paid $670,000 for the entire package which included $370,000 for the boat and the balance for the A10 permit. Mr Riseley gave evidence. He agreed that he paid a premium price because there was significant demand for "completely legal" transfers. This sale would hardly satisfy the test for comparative sales first established by the High Court in Spencer v The Commonwealth [1907] HCA 82; (1907) 5 CLR 418. It is worth noting that Mr Riseley said that although a permit acquired "under the table" may have cost less he "did not want to take the risk of either being prosecuted or having the permit suspended".
Neil Hosking gave evidence that he leased an A10 permit for about 14 months in 1996. He paid $45,000 per annum.
There was much reference in the evidence to the so-called "under the table" transactions. This evidence did not establish any clear market or evidence as to value. At most it established, as had been established in the previous challenge, that such transactions took place, that AFMA was aware of them and that AFMA took no action to prevent them. I note, however, that Mr Doran, for example, refrained from pursuing an "under the table" transaction because he understood that permits were not transferable.
Mr Fischer gave evidence, largely of a hearsay kind, of "under the table" transactions he was aware of. At its highest he said that he was offered a licence for about $450,000 by a broker.
Mr Hosking gave evidence that he bought the beneficial interest in an A6 licence. He initially paid $550,000 for a boat and licence package. The purchase of the boat represented $360,000 of the total. That leaves $190,000 for the permit. Valuations made in 1998 for the purpose of obtaining finance are said to support this value. He said that at the time A6 permits were selling for between $180,000 and $230,000. Mr Hosking also obtained valuations in January 1998 which showed a value of $200,000 for A6 permits and $400,000 for A10 permits.
These were the best proved cases of "under the table" transfers. Other evidence was anecdotal and speculative.
Undoubtedly there were "under the table" transactions. But that is what they were. They were not full transfers in a legal market. The evidence relating to them does not enable me to establish any value for permits. Fortunately, that does not matter a great deal. I accept that the right to fish, apart from the extent of the exercise of that right, was a matter to be taken into account in determining quota but I do not think that valuing that right is critical. If it was, I find that the evidence of neither family nor compassionate transfers nor of "under the table" transfers enables any reliable valuation to be arrived at.