Mr Hassett's system
17 Mr Hassett commenced his publishing business in 1977. At first he just supplied advertising but later he progressed into magazine publishing itself. CGP was incorporated in the early 1980s. The shareholders were Mr Hassett and his then wife.
18 Mr Hassett always solicited advertising by telephone. The time frame for publication of magazines like On Service and CWA Calling was normally about four and a half months. Larger magazines like his cricket and football magazines would take closer to six months. Normally it would take about twelve weeks to obtain the advertising. Over this period Mr Hassett would spend around three days a week soliciting for advertising and could well be on the telephone from about 9.30 or 10.00 am to 7.30 or 8.00 pm. Over such a day he might make six or seven sales.
19 Mr Hassett would obtain the names and phone numbers of potential advertisers from newspapers, trade gazettes, telephone directories or other publications. He would spend perhaps an hour early in the morning just going through such material and then would start making calls.
20 Mr Hassett always used the pseudonym of "Tony Davis" or just "Tony". This was a practice he adopted from his earliest days in publishing at the advice of a manager he worked for. Mr Hassett said [T 345]:
"You are calling people who really do not want to be receiving phone calls. You get an enormous amount of abuse. Some people can take it, I am a little bit sensitive to it and I found that it was quite OK - I even sought a legal opinion from Dobson Mitchell and Allport as to whether there was any problems with it legally and I was advised that it was not. I sought that legal opinion in 1977 and I had reaffirmed again by the same solicitor in 1988."
21 Mr Hassett's invariable opening would be along these lines, taking Country Women Calling as an example [T 343]:
"Good morning (or afternoon). It's Tony calling for the Tasmanian Country Women's Association and the reason that I am calling is that were are presently putting together a CWA annual publication Country Women Calling, the 1998 edition which is coming out in late February/early March, and we were hoping that you could be of assistance in the form of some advertising content."
22 At that stage his procedure depended on the varying responses that he might receive. People might say that they were not interested in which case he would "bow out gracefully". Two observations can be made. First, it will be seen later that some complainants deposed that Mr Hassett introduced himself as "Tony Hassett'". The likely explanation is that Mr Hassett's account of his modus operandi, a thing repeated thousands of times over the years, is correct but that complainants have become aware of his name later, from sources such as the RSL, the CWA or the Commission, and have transposed that name back into their recollection of the initial telephone conversation. This is something of a straw in the wind, an illustration of how reconstruction can work.
23 Secondly, Mr Hassett's opening would give persons simply not interested in advertising (on Mr Hassett's account, which I have no reason to doubt, the vast majority of those called) an easy and early exit from the conversation. Yet some complainants, who steadfastly maintain they were never interested, and who proffer explanations for that lack of interest, nevertheless did not exit the conversation but somehow managed to engage in substantial discussion with Mr Hassett, providing him with matter such as their name and address, information about their business and advertising detail.
24 To continue Mr Hassett's account of his system,sometimes those called would say they could not afford to advertise, in which case he would say "You don't have to pay for it now. It will not be out until late February/early March. You are more than welcome to fix it up after then". Others would say that they were interested and ask for a run down on the advertising costs. Mr Hassett would then give them details of the cost and size of advertisements, although he would not suggest what size the advertiser should take. Once the person made the decision to take the advertisement Mr Hassett would then get some information from them so he could have the draft of the advertisement prepared for sending out to them. He was emphatic that he does not ask for information about the person's business until such time as they have agreed to take the advertisement. He said in relation to this practice [T 344]:
"Simply - the main thing - I have always been aware that this is the sort of business where one is extremely vulnerable and it was important to get a set of practices in place in the early years where if I was asked any questions about anything I could always say confidently that I knew that it is exactly what I did and I just don't ask people for any information about their business. It's time wasting. It wasting their time and it's wasting my time as well."
25 Sometimes the person called would ask Mr Hassett what size he recommended. He would say that was entirely up to their budget. After the sizes were agreed on Mr Hassett would say to the person [T 344]:
"Now, what we will do, we will have the draft of the ad prepared for you. We will send it out to you in writing and we would ask you, please, to check it over very carefully and if you wish to make any alterations or additions please make the changes and send it back to us within seven days".
26 At that point Mr Hassett is "ready to terminate and get on to the next call". He was quite emphatic that he would never send out a draft advertisement where the person had not authorised the advertisement. When asked by his counsel whether Mr Hassett ever gets people saying "Just send me a draft then I will make up my mind?", Mr Hassett answered [T 346]:
"Yes, I do all the time and I say to people, 'I'm sorry, that is just not something that we will do'. Quite often you will get people - you get the feeling that what they want is something from you that they can use elsewhere. I have never, ever entertained - never, ever in the whole time that I have been in the business. Some companies will do it, I won't."
27 Mr Hassett does not seek a written authorisation from advertisers.
28 Where a person agrees to advertise Mr Hassett takes hand written notes of name and address and details that will go in the advertisement. He transfers these details onto a pro forma internal document called Advertising Order Form which is as follows:
"ADVERTISING ORDER FORM
C.W.A. R.S.L. TASSIE/CON CRICKET FOOTBALL
DATE:______________________________________________________
NAME OF BUSINESS:_________________________________________
NAME OF PERSON AUTHORISING AD:__________________________
CORRESPONDENCE ADDRESS:________________________________
SIZE OF AD:COST:DATE OF PAYMENT:
DRAFT:______________________________________________
RESERVATION:______________________________________________
INSTRUCTION TO CLIENT:____________________________________
INSTRUCTIONS TO PRINTER:__________________________________
OTHER SPECIAL INSTRUCTIONS:______________________________
____________________________________________________________"
29 He then prepares a draft advertisement and covering letter. The draft is produced on a standard form as follows (taking On Service as an example):
"Name:
Address:
Date: Size: Edition:
The following is a draft copy (wording only) of your advertisement which will appear in the forthcoming edition of the R.S.L. "On Service". If any amendments are necessary please alter this draft accordingly and return to PO Box 620, Kingston, 7051 within 7 days. Any draft not received within this time will be deemed approved.
[Advertisement]
If any alternations are necessary, would you kindly forward by Fax or Mail; in order to eliminate the possibility of an error being made over the telephone.
This draft is wording only and bears no resemblance to completed artwork."
Sometimes the draft will record a particular arrangement, for example that the person is to send in their own logo, or confirm a promise such as the particular placing of the advertisement.
30 The covering letter relating to On Service is as follows (mutatis mutandis, the same letter would be sent in respect of Country Women Calling):
"[Name and address]
We wish to thank you for sponsoring an advertisement in On Service
On Service is the official publication of the Returned Services of Australia (Tasmanian State Branch Inc.).
On Service is an Annual Publication containing all the up to date information on the R.S.L. activities throughout Tasmania, and will be distributed free of charge to all Members and supporters of the R.S.L. throughout the State.
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