ASU v Greater Dandenong CC
[2005] NSWIRComm 1178
At a glance
Source factsCourt
Industrial Relations Commission (NSW)
Decision date
2000-09-04
Before
Madgwick J, Marshall J, Gyles JJ, Ltd Weinberg J
Source
Original judgment source is linked above.
Judgment (36 paragraphs)
The Applicant's evidence 6 The applicant began his evidence with his long work experience in the industry and elsewhere and included some history of his employment at the Condong Mill operation. He was elected as union co-delegate in or around 2000. He was made shift supervisor also in 2000. The Commission was provided by Mr Purdy with a description of the controversial sugar bins hauled by his and other driver's trucks. The smaller of those was 65 cubic metres, whilst the super bin was 85 cubic metres. The bins do not have covers and had mesh sides towards the top. 7 Mr Purdy gave important evidence that he developed a concern over the security of cane billets whilst in transportation. Billets are short lengths of cane which are quite solid and make up the loads in question. In extreme cases Mr Purdy contended that the cane could be piled between 800 millimetres and one metre above the rim of the bins. He maintained that the problem was exaggerated when the cane was loaded in an uneven manner. The construction of the bins meant that the cane billets could migrate through the mesh around the top of the bins and under the bin doors because of the size of the mesh and the gaps that existed between the bottom of the bin doors and the bin's base. This was primarily a problem with the super bins introduced in around 2002. Attached to the applicant's affidavit exhibit 2, marked SP2 was a photo showing such a gap. 8 The applicant submitted that the overfilling and insecurity of the bins meant that travelling down the highways could result in billets blown off the pile with a serious risk to fellow road users. He also insisted that such was unlawful and was monitored by the RTA and the police. The RTA load restraint guidelines required that "loads should not move relative to the vehicle". He maintained that drivers were held accountable by the authorities and the RTA fined drivers $579. 9 The applicant maintained that up until August, 2004 neither Mills Transport nor the Co-operative accepted responsibility for the payment of such fines. It was his understanding that when complaints of damage by escaping cane billets were received, the sugar Co-operative passed them on to his then employer, Mills Transport, who paid for the damage to be repaired. 10 The applicant provided the Commission with documentation produced by other interested parties advising against the overloading of bins, which included SP3 and SP4 attached to his affidavit. SP5 was a copy of a letter to a local newspaper headed "Cane Danger" describing the risks for motorists. Despite those communications and complaints, the problem remained, which he said was not addressed by the Co-operative, with the bins being continually overfilled by harvesting crews. Whilst his employer at the time, Mills Transport, issued instructions that drivers were not to pick up bins that were posed a safety risk, it was very difficult for individual drivers to refuse a load, and many drivers found themselves in heated discussions when they told harvesting crews of the policy. Mr Purdy was acquainted with these arguments because drivers rang him as shifts supervisor to tell him the problems they were experiencing. With the turn around period said to be seven minutes, drivers were under tight timetables to meet delivery time tables. He claimed that pressure to keep bringing in the cane was placed upon drivers by the Co-operative, which is best illustrated by the eventual instruction to drivers in late 2004, to bring in the cane because the Co-operative would cover the fines incurred with the RTA. He was aware that some drivers were not prepared to stand up and say that it was not right. At SP6 attached to the applicant's witness statement, exhibit 2, the applicant wrote on the 26th August, 2004 to Mr Kelvin Mills, his former employer, and in that letter to his former employer, he said amongst other things, "that high loads attracted more attention and more susceptible to the wind disturbance at highway speeds. Burnt or green cane has extraneous matter that is blown from the bins." He complained about the fact that some harvesting crews failed to use levelling bars provided. He went on to suggest that the Co-operative management was unwilling or unable to correct this attitude shown by some crews. Because there was zero input by drivers into the matter, he believed they should have zero liability and it was his view that fines or interception problems should be handed directly to the harvesting crews that had loaded the bins in question and to be made accountable for their part in the transport chain. His memorandum finished up talking about broken windscreens and abuse from the general public, who he said would determine where the offending cane billet fell from the load and advised Mr Mills "I am seeking exemption from liability on this matter". 11 In a footnote to his former employer the applicant talked about the instance of one driver who, having refused through his supervisor to take a badly loaded super bin, was overruled by Mr John Tait of the Co-Op and who stated "the Co-Op will pay for any fines incurred". Significantly, the applicant completed that footnote with the statement "this (payment of fines by the Co-Op) has created a precedence in this area and now less notice will be taken of bins being transported". (The significance of this last notation was that it might have demonstrated to the Commission that, since the Co-Op offered to pay the fines, the applicant was not primarily concerned about the actual payment of the fine as suggested by Ms McKenzie in her final submissions, but rather it was an element of the broader liability involved, which motivated his representations). 12 Attached to the applicant's affidavit material was a petition signed by drivers which included Mr Purdy's signature as the first entry. Mr Forbes gave evidence that the petition was not actually forwarded on by the union at the time, and Mr Forbes told the Commission that it was because he believed action was being taken around the time, late 2004 to ensure some solution to the problem. 13 At SP8 to the applicant's affidavit, was a letter from the Co-operative Sugar Mill signed by Mr Walker dated the 26th October addressed to Mr Forbes of the union, replying to Mr Forbes' earlier correspondences of the 28th September and 22nd October, 2004, where concerns were raised as to the loading of the cane bins. The letter claimed that the guidelines were currently in place; adopted the union's suggestion of a drivers consultative committee to discuss and implement ideas on safety; referred to the so-called "chain of responsibility legislation" pending before Parliament; expressed reservations about the danger tags suggestion of Mr Forbes; went on to talk about a drivers consultative committee; and finally the letter speculated on some changes to the tarping and mesh side of bins, but acknowledged that there was a need to further address legitimate concerns. 14 A few days later on the 1st November, a further reply was sent to Mr Forbes referring to a teleconference that had taken place since the earlier letter. The letter began by addressing the issue of liability discussed during that teleconference; indicated that the liability policy response would be difficult to determine in fictitious circumstances; suggested that an accident would normally be covered by the compulsory third party insurance; and the truck driver would be covered by the insurance policies in place. The letter finished up (again signed by Mr Walker) by suggesting that the guidelines would be further strengthened, claimed that drivers' judgement would be respected and that the Co-operative would support the driver legally and financially if that judgement was later questioned, provided the driver followed the guidelines correctly. Next in the attachments to Mr Purdy's statement was what purported to be minutes taken of a consultative committee meeting of drivers held on the 3rd November. Apart from Mr Walker, (the signatory to the previous two letters), the other significant people at the meeting were Mr Purdy and also Mr Graham Dines, Cane Supply Manager, and Mr John Tait, Cane Supply Superintendent, Condong Mill who were the gentlemen providing the controversial references referred to in this decision, which resulted in the non-employment of Mr Purdy. 15 The applicant gave evidence that he had never received the guidelines referred to in Mr Walker's correspondence to Mr Forbes dated the 26th October and more importantly claimed that from his observations, the guidelines were not being followed by drivers, or anyone else. 16 As pointed out by Ms McKenzie on behalf of the respondent, the applicant was unable to recall precisely what he said at the 28th October teleconference, but claimed that, whilst he could not recall exactly what was said during the conference "I expect that I spoke on behalf of the drivers, saying I was very concerned about the risk the bins exposed to the public and that I did not believe it was fair that the drivers are the ones who are held responsible when it was caused by the harvesting crew and the Co-operative." He recalled about that conference that the Co-operative had expressed the view that the loading of cane bins was not much of an issue, and that it was a low risk exercise. 17 The applicant gave evidence that he was very concerned about the 1st November letter sent under Mr Walker's signature from the Co-operative (Exhibit 2 SP9), as it appeared to him that the Co-operative wanted to run the risk and cover up. He was unhappy with the issue of liability and not happy that drivers could be liable. The reference in the letter that the Co-operative would only help the drivers if they had "followed the guidelines correctly", only confirmed for Mr Purdy his concerns given the pressure that the drivers were on to pick up bins. 18 The issue was again discussed on the 3rd November meeting with the Co-operative and driver representatives, which included Mr Purdy. The issue of meal breaks and fatigue breaks was raised, in view of a tight timetable referred to earlier in Mr Purdy's statement of a seven minute drop off time. He believed the timetable did not allow for rest breaks to drivers and that there was only an estimated time of arrival involved. Scheduled breaks were required, particularly during busy points of the season and Mr Purdy testified that he regarded such as an important occupational health and safety issue, which he repeatedly raised with the Co-operative and received the response that they would "look into it, but had done nothing by the 3rd November". 19 The applicant gave important evidence that, following Mr Walker's claim at the 3rd November meeting, where it was said by management of the Co-Op. that 300 millimetres above the rim was an acceptable height of a load, he contacted the Road Transport Authority on the 4th November. The RTA information previously given to him by his former employer, showed that the loads should have been completely within the sides of the bins. Accordingly, he sought to find out the correct position and spoke to Richard Rosengrin, Industry Liaison and Education Officer of the RTA. He gave evidence that Mr Rosengrin had told him "no, there are no exemptions. All those are within the confines of the bins. Please put your enquiry in writing." On the next day, the 5th November, Mr Purdy wrote to Mr Rosengrin as he had suggested and in that letter mentioned among other things, "surely this is not an acceptable practice, as one cane billet could cause a serious accident when it falls from the load during transport on public roads". He went on in that letter to complain that the Sugar Milling Co-Op rejected approaches from the union to modify their stance on the basis that they regarded it as "low risk claiming they have had minimal public complaint". 20 Of more direct impact upon the Commission's view of this case, Mr Purdy gave crucial evidence of a meeting on the 8th December with Peter Kinsella, one of the managers of the respondent, who met with drivers of the Condong Sugar Mill to introduce himself. At the conclusion of the meeting, Mr Purdy approached Mr Kinsella, as the union delegate and representative of the drivers, and in an endeavour to explain their concerns about the safety of the bins, assured him that it was a matter nothing to do with SCT (up to that point) and that the drivers had attempted to fix the problem before SCT came into the picture. According to Mr Purdy, Mr Kinsella seemed to know who he was and outlined his concerns about the cane bins saying to Mr Kinsella "we are trying to rectify all these problems before SCT comes in", to which Mr Kinsella replied: "I hear you contacted the RTA" Purdy: "Yes I did". Kinsella: "I do not approve of that. I would not employ anyone who didn't go through the right channels in management". 21 Mr Purdy's evidence was that he agreed at the time with Mr Kinsella, but because of the attitude displayed by Mr Kinsella, he was not able to explain that whilst he had gone outside management (i.e. Mills Transport), he had the full approval of his former employers in approaching the RTA on behalf of the drivers. 22 Mr Purdy recalled that Mr Kinsella said at some stage during that conversation, words to the effect: "You do not have any support with regards to the safety issues".