Resolution of the assessment issue
48I do not accept Alphena's submissions on the assessment issue. In my opinion, Alphena's approach impermissibly conflates the position of the trustee (or former trustee) and its liquidator. What is at issue in the present proceedings is the remuneration (if any) to which the liquidator is entitled for seeking to enforce the former trustee's personal right to seek indemnity from the Trust assets. The liquidator is not the trustee. His work remains liquidator's work, albeit in this case in relation to a former corporate trustee. While his remuneration for that work is recoverable by Alphena from the Trust assets pursuant to the company's right of indemnity, that does not mean the rate of remuneration is to be assessed on some higher notional basis such as the trustee basis used in assessing solicitors' costs.
49A distinction must be drawn between the former corporate trustee and its liquidator. This distinction was noted by Campbell J in his principal judgment in the Re Sutherland litigation, namely Re Sutherland (French Caledonia Travel Service Pty Limited (In liq)) [2003] NSWSC 1008; (2003) 59 NSWLR 361 at [201] ("French Caledonia Travel"):
When a company which carries on no activities other than being a trustee of a trading trust goes into liquidation, the proper costs and expenses of the liquidator can be met from the assets of the trust; Re Suco Gold Pty Ltd (In liq) (1983) 33 SASR 99. King CJ reached this conclusion on the basis that a trustee had a personal right to be indemnified from the trust assets for expenses the trustee has incurred in the administration of the trust and a lien over the trust's assets to secure the right of indemnity. The trustee also has a personal right to resort to the trust property and pay expenses of administration of the trust from the trust assets, without first paying those expenses himself. When a trustee which is a corporation goes into liquidation, those personal rights, and that lien, are assets which are divisible in the liquidation. (King CJ says they pass to the liquidator - (at 104, 105, 107, 109). This is not, with respect, strictly correct, as the rights of the company remain with the company, and the liquidator acquires powers to deal with the assets of company in lieu of the directors, but this detail does not affect the validity of the main thrust of his Honour's argument.) (emphasis added)
50In this case, keeping a clear distinction between the rights of the corporate trustee and its liquidator is, it seems to me, an essential part of the analysis. One then must add, and this proposition could not be and was not disputed by any party, that a former trustee retains its personal right as against a new trustee to seek indemnity out of the trust assets. Understood in this way, PS Securities' criticism of Gray J's reliance upon the former trustee having the status of a bare trustee is also answered. I think there is force in Mr Cook's submission that it is difficult to describe a former trustee as a bare trustee when it has parted with all of the property which was the subject of the trust. I think it is also difficult to characterise a former trustee as being a bare trustee of its own right of indemnity out of the trust assets (if that is what Gray J did).
51However, it is not necessary for me in these proceedings to reach a concluded view as to the correctness of the approach adopted by Gray J. Being a bare trustee still possessed of trust assets is certainly sufficient to explain the basis of a right of indemnity out of trust assets. In addition, when the personal nature of that right is understood, it is clear that it necessarily survives even the loss of status as bare trustee where that can be said to have occurred.
52What then of PS Securities' submission that a former trustee should not be remunerated for its time and trouble in pursuing its right to indemnity against trust assets? In my opinion, pursuing the right to indemnity is itself part and parcel of the right itself. If, as is undisputed, the former trustee has a lien over the trust assets to secure its right of indemnity, I see no reason why in principle that right (and the consequent lien) should not extend to the costs of and incidental to the enforcement of that right. I have neither been referred to, nor found, any authority to the contrary.
53When the separate identity of the owner of that right (the former trustee) and the person giving effect to it on behalf of the former trustee (the liquidator) is recognised, the liquidator's work in taking steps to enforce the company's right of indemnity against the new trustee is seen as an incident of the winding up, albeit one that engages the Court's power to allow the remuneration in relation to that work to be paid from the trust fund.
54The conclusions I have just expressed are consistent with another jurisdictional basis identified by Campbell J in Re Sutherland at [15]:
In permitting remuneration to a liquidator who administers trust funds, the decision in [Re Berkeley Applegate (Investment Consultants) Pty Ltd (In liq); Harris v Conway [1989] 1 Ch 32] also invoked another equitable principle, applicable outside trust law as well as inside it, that (at 50):
... where a person seeks to enforce a claim to an equitable interest in property, the court has a discretion to require as a condition of giving effect to that equitable interest that an allowance be made for costs incurred and for skill and labour expended in connection with the administration of the property.
55In my view, the passage cited by Campbell J from Re Berkeley Applegate supports the conclusion that a former trustee is entitled to receive from the trust fund not only what is necessary to satisfy its right of indemnity, but the costs incurred in enforcing that right of indemnity.
56This leaves for decision the ultimate question of the scale to be applied by the Registrar in assessing the remuneration and costs in respect of which Alphena's liquidator is entitled to be indemnified from the Trust assets.
57On this question, Garra Water does not in any event really assist Alphena. This is because it was conceded in that case that the liquidator was entitled to his proper and reasonable costs and expenses of the liquidation after the new trustee had been appointed. There was no suggestion that a full indemnity or trustee basis type of assessment should be undertaken.
58Neither the parties' nor my own research has found any authority where there was argument about the appropriate scale. For example, in Re Sutherland it appears again to have been accepted that the ordinary basis for assessing a liquidator's remuneration should be applied.
59In French Caledonia Travel [207]-[210], Campbell J considers the principle in Re Berkeley Applegate (to which I have referred in paragraph 54 above) at greater length. While it is not necessary for me to reproduce those lengthy paragraphs in this judgment, it is instructive to refer briefly to the relevant cases which Campbell J touches upon in that passage.
60In Re Berkeley Applegate the liquidator sought an order for remuneration "in such sum as to the court shall seem just". However there was no issue before the court at that stage whether any particular item claimed by the liquidator should be allowed (see [1989] 1 Ch 32 at 41G - 42C). Therefore, that case does not assist on the current question.
61In Re Eastern Capital Futures Limited (In liq) [1989] BCLC 371, Morritt J acceded to the liquidators' application that their remuneration out of the trust assets should be in accordance with a general scale under the relevant insolvency regulations. There does not appear to have been any suggestion in that case that a special scale should be applied. Similarly, McClelland J (as his Honour then was) in applying the principle in Re Berkeley Applegate in Re GB Nathan & Co (In liq) (1991) 24 NSWLR 674 at 686-689 proceeded on the basis that while remuneration was payable to the liquidator out of the trust assets, the ordinary level of remuneration applied.
62Finally, in 13 Coromandel Place Pty Ltd v CL Custodians Pty Ltd (In liq) (1999) 30 ACSR 377; 17 ACLC 500 at 509, Finklestein J said (at 385):
These cases establish, clearly enough in my opinion, that provided a liquidator is acting reasonably he is entitled to be indemnified out of trust assets for his costs and expenses in carrying out the following activities: identifying or attempting to identify trust assets; recovering or attempting to recover trust assets; realising or attempting to realise trust assets; protecting or attempting to protect trust assets; distributing trust assets to the persons beneficially entitled to them. (emphasis added)
63The approach which has apparently been adopted in the authorities to which I have just referred and the general principle that I have identified above that in undertaking work in relation to trust assets the liquidator nevertheless does so in his capacity as a liquidator, bring me to the conclusion that insofar as any scale is to be applied by the Registrar, it ought to be that which the Registrar regularly applies in assessing an Official Liquidator's remuneration under s473 of the Act.
64This means that the Registrar should allow such costs and disbursements of the liquidator of Alphena as are reasonable, taking into account the matters referred to in s473(10). Subject to any further argument by the parties as to the form of the orders, I propose to give effect to this conclusion by giving a direction in the same form as that given by Campbell J in Re Sutherland at [22] that the Registrar assess the liquidator's application for remuneration constituted by Exhibits 3P and 4P as though it were an application by an Official Liquidator for approval of his or her remuneration.
65I should also record that because Re Sutherland was not referred to by anyone during the hearing before me, I gave the parties leave to put any submissions to me about it in writing. I have had regard to those further submissions.
66PS Securities urged that if, contrary to their primary case, I found that the liquidator was entitled to remuneration I should follow Re Sutherland. That is what I have done.
67Alphena sought to distinguish Re Sutherland by referring me to cl 8(2)(b) of the Trust's Deed of Settlement, which provides that if a trustee is a person engaged in a profession, that trustee is "entitled to charge and be paid from time to time all usual professional charges ...". I do not think that reference assists Alphena for two reasons. First, as I have said, the liquidator is not the trustee. Second, it begs the question of what "usual" professional charges might be and, contrary to Alphena's submission, does not support an inference that the settlor intended remuneration to be on the "trustee basis" of assessment.