34 The lapses, such as they were, do not lead me to conclude that Dr Grey cannot be trusted to observe confidentiality when questioned by Iluka. There are several contributing reasons for this conclusion:
· My own assessment of the cross‑examination, admittedly limited to the written word, is that the lapses were either not by Dr Grey or were of a minor nature, resulting, as Dr Grey's "confessions" indicated, from a lack of awareness of the extent to which the obligation of confidentiality extended.
· Dr Grey readily agreed with counsel's suggestions that in a technical sense he should have remained silent or left the room when a matter involving WIM came up.
· He was, at times, too ready to concede impropriety on his part, for example when he "took full responsibility" when he was unaware of a lapse committed by someone else.
· The Delegate, who had the benefit of seeing Dr Grey give evidence and was fully immersed in the SREP Application as a whole, made an assessment of the lapses that essentially accords with my own ‑ any disclosure of information was technical, reflecting a naivety, if not ignorance, in industrial property matters.
· As a result of the cross‑examination Dr Grey is now well aware of how careful he needs to be in answering questions and holding discussions with Iluka.
· I would expect that Dr Grey will be instructed as to the ambit and seriousness of confidentiality requirements, so that when in doubt about a WIM‑related topic, he will decline to comment.
· I accept, as did WIM's counsel, that there is no fear of entrapment of Dr Grey by Iluka's lawyers, and that WIM is concerned solely about unintended or unconscious lapses.
· It is proposed that CSIRO's solicitors will be present at any meeting between Iluka's lawyers and Dr Grey, and will be able to establish a regime for dealing with privileged and confidential material.
35 In the circumstances detailed in par 34 I am not persuaded by the transcript lapses that I should not accept Iluka's undertaking as sufficient to meet WIM's concerns. If CSIRO is prepared to be involved in the manner contemplated by Iluka, appropriate provisions can be inserted in a draft confidentiality undertaking to be brought into court for consideration. CSIRO has an interest in the preservation of privileged and confidential information obtained by its researchers. Many of the reasons set out above also cause me to conclude that WIM's fears (recorded in pars 27 to 29) are sufficiently accommodated by Iluka's undertaking. In light of the undertaking I do not think there is a "real" risk of disclosure (in the sense described in the cases listed in par 9) or of irreparable injury to WIM in Iluka consulting with Dr Grey in the manner proposed. In this connection I refer in particular to the matters appearing in the fifth, sixth and eighth dot points in par 34. The balance of convenience favours accepting the undertaking rather than enjoining Iluka in the manner appearing in par 1(b) of the notice of motion. Dr Grey performed much work for RGC before he was consulted by WIM. To grant WIM the relief sought would enable it to confer with Dr Grey for the purposes of the proceeding but preclude Iluka from doing so, despite its earlier and equally intense involvement with Dr Grey. That would be unfair, and can be avoided by accepting Iluka's undertaking. I refer again to the fifth, sixth and eighth dot points in par 34. In deciding, in the exercise of my discretion, to accept the undertaking in lieu of granting the injunction, I have taken into account the fact that Iluka has at all times offered a confidentiality undertaking. That its form and content has developed over time is due to WIM's tardiness in identifying the confidential information in question and not because of any reluctance on Iluka's part to offer an undertaking that meets WIM's legitimate concerns.
Conclusion
36 For the reasons contained in pars 25 to 35 WIM is not entitled to the relief sought in par 1(b) of its notice of motion.