in the end when all the evidence is given whether the interest
is excessive. The very amount of it may of itself be some
evidence that it is excessive even if nothing more appears
to convince the Court that it is. Palles C.B, had an instance
before him in which 2,000 per cent. per annum was charged.
It was gravely argued here that such a rate is not of itself evi-
dence that it is excessive. Palles C.B. thought that it was,
and I think so too. A question to be considered is, what is
the point at which the rate of interest is to be taken by the
Court as being excessive? But I take it that the interest may
reach such an amount as to call upon the lender to justify it. It
must not be forgotten that it is the lender who fixes the interest,
and he must know, or ought to know, how he arrived at it. He
it is who has the commanding position. When interest is so
much above the ordinary rate as say 50 per cent. is, there must
be a considerable amount of necessity. There is a passage from
the judgment of Northington L.C. (then Lord Henley) in Vernon
v. Bethell (1), which is quoted by Lord Macnaghten in Samuel v.
Jarrah Timber and Wood Paving Corporation (2), in which he
says : - " Necessitous men are not, truly speaking, free men, but
to answer a present exigency will submit to any terms that the
crafty may impose upon them." So that a money lender who
fixes, say 50 per cent., is a person who is supposed at all events
to arrive by some process of reasoning at that amount as being a
fair amount. In Samuel v. Newbold (3), Lord Macnaghten
quoting Sir William Grant in Bowes v. Heaps (4), said : - *' It
is not every bargain which distress may induce one man to offer
that another is at liberty to accept.'" Now the money lender
calculates the risk, or he ought to do so, and it should not be hard
for him - much easier, at all events, than in many cases for the
borrower - to state the elements which have been taken into con-
sideration. So, without saying anything more about the point at
which the interest becomes excessive, I say that 50 per cent. per
annum, arate at which the whole of the capital would be returned