[21] When Mr Loane gave evidence, he said in respect to this matter and his involvement, he had a phone call from his brother, Paul Schmidt-Lee, in the first week of June. Paul asked him to ring the Office of Fair Trading and to report some matters, which are later reflected in his letter of 14 June, Exhibit 2. The matters were obviously quite serious allegations of his suspicion of misuse of the Copas Newman trust account. He said it had been going on, on an ongoing basis for some time, that it was common knowledge within the agency, and he wanted to report it to the OFT. Over the phone Mr Loane told him he wouldn't consider lodging a complaint for him with the OFT over the phone, and he wouldn't do it in any circumstance without some evidence to show that there was in fact a basis to the suspicions. That weekend they arranged to meet up, that's Paul and himself, which they did, and at that meeting Mr Loane asked Mr Schmidt-Lee for further information about the matters that he was alleging. He told Mr Loane that he had had a falling out with Mr Trenham and there was ongoing problems there, and reiterated his claims that there was misuse of the trust account. Mr Loane said the first thing he did was to advise him that now over the years in business he had seen plenty of agents go at each other and he said to Paul, essentially, "look, it's a storm in a teacup, give it time, it'll go away, just don't do anything, let it die". Mr Loane said Mr Schmidt-Lee then produced to him a document called a sales deposit report which was a print out of transactions on Mr Trenham's trust account. He said it had sales deposits cheque details. He said Mr Schmidt-Lee showed him that report and pointed out a number of transactions that clearly showed that money had been taken out of the trust account prior to settlement dates of properties. Mr Loane said he satisfied himself that at least in those occasions there was evidence that the wrong thing had been done. He said Mr Schmidt-Lee further went on to explain to him that there were other people in the office that were aware of the practice. He specifically mentioned Mr Trenham's previous partner, Brian Baker. He specifically spoke about Rebecca Lipscombe. Mr Loane said that Mr Schmidt-Lee said in respect of Rebecca Lipscombe, she had been responsible for withdrawing some of the funds on Mr Trenham's direct instructions. He said that the financial controller, Donna Murray, was also aware of what was going on and was quite concerned about it. He went on to say that Mr Trenham had introduced a new person into the company by Mr Doneley and said that that also concerned him due to the fact that Mr Doneley had been in jail for fraud.