19 In determining whether or not cl 3A of Sch 1 of the Bail Act 1982 applies, in my opinion it is necessary not only to look to the terms of the complaint, but to look to the circumstances surrounding the offence, which is said to have occurred whilst the applicant was on bail for another serious offence. The court should look to the question of whether the applicant has, during the time that he was on bail for the serious offence, committed acts which either by themselves or in combination with other conduct can be said to constitute the second serious offence. In this case, in my opinion, the two passages from the evidence of Cotton, which I have set out earlier in these reasons, would, if accepted, suggest that the applicant was involved in overt acts evidencing conspiratorial conduct whilst on bail for other serious offences. In saying that, I do not in any sense derogate from the presumption of innocence. I also accept the contention of senior counsel for the applicant that this evidence is likely to be seriously challenged at trial. In addition, there has been no production of transcription of the intercepted telephone conversations and the two passages from the evidence of Cotton, set out earlier in these reasons, are clearly conclusions drawn from the conversations said to have been recorded.