59 In relation to the sexual penetration offences in the indictment 1916 of 2003, the individual sentences scale up to ones of 3 years and 6 months, 3 years and 2 years, which appear to me to fall well within the range of sentences disclosed by the authorities I have referred to. Of particular relevance appears to me "D", where the appellant was, we were told, TJD's father. D, by comparison with TJD, had a prior history of sexual offending, and what appear to me to be somewhat less favourable indications of an interest in voluntary rehabilitation, and much less favourable indications of prospects for future rehabilitation. However, he had similar indications of good character and work history, no evidence referred to in the appeal judgments of any sexual abuse he had undergone himself, and indications that he was treated as having pleaded guilty at the first opportunity. The victims involved in D's case were aged 9 and 14 years at the relevant times, when D was 53, much older than TJD at the relevant times. However, the victims' relationship to D, other than one of trust, is not shown by the appeal judgment, although it appears, from the quotation in that case from Woods (supra), per Anderson J, at 354 to which I earlier made reference, that a family context of some sort was involved.