Thiering v Daly
[2011] NSWSC 1585
At a glance
Source factsCourt
Supreme Court of NSW
Decision date
2011-12-19
Before
Garling J
Source
Original judgment source is linked above.
Judgment (7 paragraphs)
Judgment 1On 11 November 2011, I delivered my principal judgment in this matter: [2011] NSWSC 1345. 2The principal judgment dealt with certain separate issues which the parties had identified. At the conclusion of the judgment in [169], I set out some tentative views as to the answers which should be given to those separate issues posed for determination and directed that the parties provide proposed short minutes of order and submissions in support of the answers for which they contended. In addition I directed that such submissions also deal with the question of costs. 3On Friday 9 December 2011, I heard oral submissions from the parties with respect to the answers which each contended the Court should give. 4This judgment deals with the outstanding issues of the answers to be given and the appropriate orders for costs. 5This judgment assumes all of the facts and matters dealt with in the principal judgment and I will not repeat those matter unless necessary so to do.
Determination of Separate Issues 6Broadly speaking, the plaintiffs were in agreement with respect to the answers of the first defendant, the motor vehicle tortfeasor. The second defendant, the Lifetime Care and Support Authority of NSW (the "LCS Authority") submitted that different answers ought be given to the questions. 7Again, speaking generally, the LCS Authority submitted that as the separate issue questions were posed in the present tense that it was inappropriate for the Court to go outside those questions and give answers in anything more than one or two words. 8I do not accept the submissions of the LCS Authority that the appropriate way to answer the various questions is confined to a one or two word answer. 9The basis for the submission that the answers ought be so confined, was that the questions posed for separate determination were phrased in the present tense and that therefore, since the Court had determined the position as it presently stood, there was no purpose to be served by answering in a more expansive way. 10There are two principal difficulties with this submission. The first is that the parties clearly draw a distinction between the time period up to judgment (or the date of a settlement) of the first plaintiff's claim for damages and the period after such judgment (or settlement) for the future. By way of illustration, Question 1 asked whether the LCS Authority was under an obligation to pay for gratuitous care and assistance up to the date of judgment. 11In her submissions on 9 December 2011, senior counsel for the LCS Authority, on a number of occasions, accepted that their concept of a claim for past expenses extended up to the date of judgment, which has not yet arrived. 12At T8.23, Ms Needham SC said: "And your Honour has seen the particulars which defined, in effect, the claim as a claim for past care only which they say will continue to the date of judgment and which, as I said, all the parties are happy to accept that slight extension." 13At T9.34, when dealing with Question 4, Ms Needham SC said: "It focuses on the wording of the [Motor Accidents (Lifetime Care and Support) Act 2006], relevantly s 6, and it focuses on the present rights and the case up to the date of judgment which, as I have said before, your Honour, the parties understand to mean what we have been calling 'past services' and that is the basis on which all the particulars and all the argument has proceeded thus far." 14Since the time for judgment (or settlement) of the principal proceedings has not yet arrived, it would be inappropriate to limit the answers in the way submitted by the LCS Authority. To do so would be to bar a claim which is presently open to either of the plaintiffs and which they are entitled to make up to the date of resolution of that claim. 15The second reason is that to answer the questions briefly would be to ignore the complexities of the issues posed. Whilst, in some cases, a single word answer may be appropriate, the questions posed here invite more thoughtful consideration. As well, one of the main reasons why the separate determination of these questions was urged on the Court was that the process would promote early settlement. Full answers are more likely to achieve that object.