Submissions and determination
55Reference to Ashmore Reef in the evidence did not convert the defence case to something beyond what the appellant had said in his evidence or make a question of whether he knew Ashmore Reef was part of Australia an issue in the trial.
56It was put to counsel for the appellant at the hearing of the appeal that there appeared to be two cases presented to the jury: the Crown case being one which sought to demonstrate the accused's knowledge and intention about the boat going to Australia; and the defence case being the exact opposite, that the appellant had no knowledge of the destination at all, let alone an intention to facilitate the passage of persons to Australia. Counsel was asked to identify how the jury could possibly have taken a middle course of deciding that the appellant was aware that the boat was going to Ashmore Reef but did not know that it was part of Australia. Counsel responded by inviting the Court's attention to certain passages in the evidence of the prosecution witness, Fida Hussain.
57Mr Hussain said he saw in the captain's cabin a map, a GPS, a compass and some tools to fix the engine. He was asked about the map:
Q. What did you see depicted on the map?
A. INTERPRETER: On the map it was drawn like places, like islands, mainly Indonesian. Also it was point which way in which direction we're going and up to Ashmore Reef or Pulau Pasir and I saw Ashmore. They had the map, I could see.
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Q. You mentioned another place that sounded something like Pulau Pasir, is that correct?
A. INTERPRETER: Because he was talking in his language like he was mentioning that name Pulau Pasir and I wasn't quite sure what that means and he was just pointing at the Ashmore Reef island and he was saying the Navy will come and collect you guys from there.
Q. Why were you talking in particular about Ashmore Reef?
A. INTERPRETER: The crew, actually they were telling me or telling us so when you get to Australia water so there will be Ashmore Reef and Australian Navy will come and collect you guys.
Q. When you say "the crew" are you able to identify who exactly within the crew said that to you?
A. INTERPRETER: All of them. When we are asking questions they were all answering the same answer, so all of them. (T161-162).
58A little later, the witness spoke of the appellant receiving SMS messages on his mobile phone:
Q. Did you have any further conversation with him in relation to those messages?
A. INTERPRETER: Nothing much. It was just try to keep us calm down and it was give us hope, so said you'll be fine and safe and I try to, we try get you there safe.
Q. When he said "get you there safe", was there or was there not ever any specific mention of the destination of the boar?
A. INTERPRETER: Yeah, of course, he was saying Pulau Pasir.
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Q. Did you have any other conversations with the accused, other than simply looking at the map or so on, that were relevant to the fact of your ultimate destination?
A. INTERPRETER: No, not really but it's just like I was, they, just myself and every other passengers keep asking how long, how long is the journey is, how many days and when we getting to get to Australia's waters. (T166)
59The witness was then asked about conversations he may have overheard between the appellant and other crew members about where the boat was going:
A. INTERPRETER: Yeah. I heard conversation between him and Ahmad and the other guy, the older guy, and when they were talking about, where you want me to say about what? I heard a lot of conversations.
Q. In particular about when the boat reached its destination?
A. INTERPRETER: They were talking about, they have conversation about when we get to Australia's water and when the navy ask us, asked us we will tell them look, we've been forced to come here.
Q. Who used those words?
A. INTERPRETER: The person who's here and also the older guy.
Q. Are those the exact words that were used?
A. INTERPRETER: Yeah, I really can't remember, it was a long time ago, exactly sentence by sentence, but that was the conversation I heard, we will tell the Australian Navy we've been forced to come here.
Q. And did you personally have any conversation with the accused about what would happen if and when the Australian Navy arrived?
A. INTERPETER: Yes, he told me when the Australian Navy came and they will put us in jail and you guys will be free. (T 167)
60I am unable to discern from this evidence that the jury could have concluded that the appellant knew that the boat was going to Ashmore Reef and that there was, as a result, a question as to whether he knew that Ashmore Reef was a part of Australia. The evidence set out above certainly contains reference to Ashmore Reef, but it was in the context of conversations about it being in Australian waters, and of the boat being intercepted by the Royal Australian Navy.
61This evidence, and the other items of circumstantial evidence relied upon by the Crown at trial, makes it clear that the question for the jury was whether the appellant knew that the boat was destined for Australia. This was not a case, as Alomalu was, where "the most that can be established from the evidence is that the appellant was told that the passengers would be taken to Ashmore Reef": Alomalu at [37].
62Put succinctly, the submissions for the Crown were that the trial judge correctly directed the jury as to the elements of the offence and that, on the facts of this case, no further directions were required. Those submissions should be accepted. The appeal should be dismissed.