8 An order for costs to be taxed on an indemnity basis, whether under the inherent disciplinary jurisdiction or in respect of party and party costs, is in my view necessarily an order that the paying party should indemnify the other party to the extent of that other party's legal liability to pay costs. Should that party, in fact, have no legal liability to pay costs to the solicitor who acted on the party's behalf or, if there is for example some statutory limitation on the amount of the liability of that party for costs to its solicitor, this is material to the extent of the indemnity contemplated by the order. If there is no legal liability at all, there is nothing to indemnify. If there is a statutory limit to the liability, that is the extent of the indemnity. It is sufficient to refer to the decision of Poole ACJ in Backhouse v Judd [1925] SASR 395 at 396-398, which decision was affirmed by the Full Court, its decision being reported in the same report at 400 - 404. See also the decision in Brown v Julius, ex parte Julius (No 2) (1959) QWN 37 which relied upon the decision in Gundry v Sainsbury [1910] 1 KB 645. Hence, in my view, if a party has not incurred costs, in the normal sense of incurred a binding legal liability to pay costs, there would be nothing to indemnify. Gratuitous payments could not sensibly be made the subject of an obligation to indemnify in this context.