Mr Lee's Evidence
21 Mr Lee's affidavit evidence was a single affidavit, sworn 5 August 2005. It confirmed that he had received instructions on 17 July 2002 from the Son. The totality of the account in his affidavit of the meeting of 13 August 2002 is:
"On the 13 August 2002 I attended at the property and saw the Defendant and he introduced me to the Plaintiff and the Plaintiff's wife who was also present. I explained to the Plaintiff and his wife the Valuation, the Contract for Sale and the Conveyance and Transfer and talked them through these documents. I then said to the Plaintiff words to the effect: "You are transferring all the property to John for $300,000.00. I am acting for John and not you. I suggest you take all these papers to your own Solicitor for independent legal advice." He said: "No. I don't need to do that, I understand. I want to get them fixed up now." I said to the Plaintiff: "Once you transfer these deeds to John, if you have a fight with him he can throw you out of the house." He said: "I know." The Plaintiff appeared to understand what he was doing. The Plaintiff signed the documents and his wife witnessed his signature on the Transfer and the Conveyance."
22 Mr Lee gave oral evidence in chief that was significantly more extensive than his affidavit evidence. Additional matters deposed to in that oral evidence included:
· He was at the house for approximately an hour, between about 5:00pm and 6:00pm.
· He recognised the Father and his wife in court, as being people he had seen (I take it, on the occasion the documents were signed).
· He communicated with the Father in English, had no difficulty in communicating with him, and no difficulty in understanding statements made by the Father to him.
· He had no difficulty in making himself heard.
· The members of the family spoke amongst themselves, in English.
· There was a television on when he arrived, but it was either turned down or off.
· He has a recollection of the substance of the conversation.
· An overview of the meeting was:
"A. When I first arrived I saw John and he took me inside, introduced me to, first of all, his father and then his mother came. I introduced myself as John's solicitor and said that I was there to talk about the transfer of the property, that a valuation had been obtained for $300,000. I had prepared a contract for sale of the whole property from the father to the son and I had a transfer and some conveyances and authorities and I was going to take them through them. I suggested to the father that he should seek independent legal advice. He said to me that he did not want to do that, he was happy to go ahead and wanted it to be fixed up then. At that stage I said that it was a very important document and what was involved was that he was transferring everything over and if there was ever a fight John can throw him out of the house.
Q. How did you then set about going through the documents?
A. Once he said that he didn't wish to go and see his own solicitor, I was sitting at a table with all three of them and I took them through document by document, explaining them and having them signed off as we went."
· He went through the valuation, and the contract and that as each document was explained it was "signed off" at the end of the explanation.
· He went through the authority letter point-by-point.
· It was incorrect to say that the Father signed some documents, and then his wife came from somewhere else to witness his signature.
23 By the time of the second tranche of the hearing a transcript of the oral evidence given in the first tranche was available. Mr Lee had been provided with that transcript before he gave evidence. Mr Lee was taken in evidence in chief to particular items of evidence that had been given by the Father. He denied those.
24 As well, Mr Lee had put to him, without objection, as part of his evidence in chief, various items of evidence that the Son had given in chief:
"Q. At the end of the signing process, the paperwork, did you hear John, Mr Sleboda junior, say anything to his father about the effect of the documents?
A. I did.
Q. What did you hear him say?
A. It was to the effect that he transferred the complete property across to John, it was now John's.
Q. Did you hear him refer to any particular figures?
A. I think he also again mentioned $300,000.
Q. At page 56, about line 47, the defendant says that in your presence he said to his father, "It's a hundred per cent in my name" and then that you mentioned things to him three or four times and that Mr Sleboda senior said, "I'm willing to sign it all in your name." Do you have any recollection of that?
A. I do.
Q. Is your recollection along the lines of--
A. My recollection is similar.
Q. At page 66, line 55, the defendant gives evidence of you saying to Mr Sleboda senior, "You know what John wants" and Mr Sleboda senior saying, "Yes, I want him to have the whole farm." Do you have any recollection of that?
A. I do recall something similar being said."
25 Mr Lee's cross-examination included the following:
"Q. So it is correct to say that at all times prior to going out to see the plaintiff and his son, you were proceeding on the basis that this transaction was a sale for value?
A. It was to be a sale for value.
Q. And, indeed, the contract and the conveyances and all of the documents were drawn on that basis, were they not?
A. Correct.
Q. You were never told by the defendant that the transaction was to be a gift?
A. No."
26 Mr Lee confirmed early in the cross-examination that he was first asked to recollect the events surrounding the transaction in about August 2005, and that the only sources he had for the preparation of his affidavit was his own recollection and his file. He said that his legal practice was fifty or sixty percent conveyancing, in the course of which he would do something in the order of 150 conveyances a year. He agreed he did not recollect the exact words that were used at the meeting on 13 August 2002, but said that he recollected the intent of what was said.
27 Mr Lee agreed that he had a practice of the way he explained contracts to clients, involving taking them through the front coversheet first, and then other important written terms of the contract and attachments like the zoning certificate.
28 Notwithstanding his earlier answer that he had relied only upon his recollection and his note in preparing his affidavit, he then gave evidence:
"Q. Can I suggest to you that you have relied upon your practice in preparing your affidavit?
A. No, I have relied on my practice, but I have also relied on my notes and my recollection at the time."
29 He stated that he recollected the attendance, "because it was an unusual one to be done at home."
30 He gave evidence that he could still recall some of the words he used. He was then challenged about that answer:
"Q. Put it in direct speech - what do you have an independent recollection of saying to him?
A. I recall saying to him, "I suggest to you that you obtain independent legal advice." And I also recall saying to him that "you are transferring the whole of the property to John for $300,000." And that "John can throw you out if you have a fight."
Q. I noted that when you gave that evidence you were looking towards the letter which has been tendered in evidence; do you agree with that?
A. I was just glancing at it, yes.
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Q. Can I suggest to you - and in doing this I am not suggesting that you are deliberately fabricating something - but I am suggesting to you that you are reconstructing what occurred by reference to the note?
A. I am to a certain degree, I agree.
Q. And that you do not have an independent recollection of the words which were used, but rather what you are doing is, by reference to the note, you are doing the best you can to put them into direct speech?
A. No, I still recall some of those words I used."
31 Mr Lee confirmed that before he came to the house he was not told that the Father had a hearing problem, or that he had a limited ability to read English, or that this was a transaction for which no consideration would be paid. The evidence continued:
"Q. Can I suggest to you that, if that had been said to you, you would have taken greater steps to suggest to the plaintiff that he should obtain independent advice than merely saying to him, "You should get independent advice." Do you agree with that or not?
A. No, I'd agree with that.
Q. And the reason for that is that you would have appreciated that this was not a sale for a full consideration, but a gift?
A. Yes.
Q. You would also have been concerned, as the solicitor for the prospective beneficiary of the gift, that your client was sitting right next to his father at the time that this transaction was proceeding, wouldn't you?
A. I would have been - yes, I would have."
32 Mr Lee confirmed that when he was acting for a donor it was better to have the client come to the office where there is a greater level of formality, and that one of the reasons for that is that the office setting has a greater capacity to bring home to them what they are doing. Mr Lee agreed that, when he was acting for a donee, it was in the client's interest that there not be a subsequent fight, and that it was less than desirable for the transaction documents to be signed in an informal setting. He agreed that, if he had known that this transaction was a gift, he would have suggested to his own client that it was in his interests for the Father to seek independent advice.