(i) It is true that the complainant's answers to Detective Bagnall were characterised by the speech patterns I have mentioned. But it is also true that Detective Bagnall was fully aware of the need for the complainant to be specific as to the individual events the subject of the charges. She pressed the complainant to focus on those events. Thus, in relation to the 2004 allegations, the complainant said, for example:
"… and night time he would do the same as always. And I would probably do the same, like he'd start touching me around the vagina and doing those things and I would just make excuses, Oh, I need to go to the bathroom, things like that … And my sister was there on that night, [L]. And [L], I, every, every time she made an excuse, Oh, like when I said, Oh, I need to go to the bathroom, she, she was, like she wanted to come with me, so she said, I need to go to the bathroom too. And when I went everything was fine. And then when my sister went, he would start following her, as well. And he would stand outside the bathroom."
114 These answers, alone, would be unsatisfactory to prove a specific incident on a specific occasion. But, later, the complainant said:
"And yeah, so then [L] would wake up, she would move. And then [L] waking up made me wake up, so then I thought, and then I realised he was there and that, so, the same, the same routine, the same thing … He touched me in the vagina again. Yeah. And I woke [Sh] up and I said [Sh], do you wanna do something, do you want to play something, cause I didn't wanna, like I didn't wanna stay there … And she, and [Sh] said, OK. So we played a clap game and he was just, oh, you know, OK. So we got out and I was like, Oh, thank you [Sh]. And then, and then when he came back again, like [Sh] decided to doze off again cause she was really, really tired. And so then I went to sleep. And he came back again and then he started touching me around the breast area, the same ." (italics added)
115 There is in these last answers no vagueness or uncertainty, or running together of a pattern of behaviour. Those answers give a clear and explicit account of a specific incident.
116 In relation to the 2006 allegations, the complainant said:
"Like, we were there and we were watching Charlie and the Chocolate Factory. And my big sister, not my biggest, like [L], she was there with us. We were all there and she, then [L] fell asleep and [Sh] was there, in front of me. And then she fell asleep. So then I fell asleep. And then he came to tuck us in, and I don't know what he was doing, but he just, he got into the bed and I was like, he got behind me and then he just, like touched me down here … And then I started getting a bit uncomfortable, and I said, oh, I need to go get a drink, or whatever. And so he said, OK, are you sure you don't need me to come? And I said, No, no, no, I don't need anybody. And I just got out of the bed and I went and like I pretended to go get a drink, yeah, and just went and I sat in the laundry room, by the door and I sat there for quite a, like a long time. And then he came and he said, Oh, are you OK? And I said, Oh, yeah, I'm fine. And I just got up and I went back to the bed. And like I was just with my cousin and my sister …" (italics added)
117 These answers, in my opinion, were sufficient to enable the jury to conclude (if they accepted the complainant's evidence) that the specific incidents the subject of the charges had occurred.
118 (ii) The first point made in relation to the date of the initial event concerned the date of purchase of the appellant's home. But the complainant herself took much of the sting out of that attack when, in cross-examination, she said, in effect, that she had reconstructed her evidence as to timing, and had reached a different conclusion. Somewhat disarmingly (for the cross-examiner) she agreed (twice) that the realisation that the appellant had not owned the house at the date she originally stipulated may have been part of the reason for her revision.
119 (iii) I see little force in the criticism of the complainant's evidence about the frequency of the offences. Read as a whole, her interview does not support or suggest the frequency attributed to her in the one answer extracted. Her explanation given in cross-examination may well have been sufficient for the jury.
120 (iv) Nor do I see any great moment in the complainant having been unaware of renovations to the appellant's home. In 2003, when renovations took place, the complainant was seven years old. She undoubtedly had weightier matters on her mind than renovations that so obsess adults.
121 (v) The asserted discrepancy in the complainant's answers about her immediate response (or non-response) to the appellant's conduct are of similarly little moment. The answers are entirely consistent with what is recognised as the confusion that afflict child victims of sex offences.
122 (vi) The complainant said that she believed the incident the subject of the 2004 allegations occurred in the context of her having watched "The Incredibles". However, she was far from definitive about this. If, as she said, the conduct of the appellant the subject of the charges was representative, or a sample of his conduct over a period, it is hardly surprising that she might have confused the surrounding circumstances of one occasion with the surrounding circumstances of another. What was important was, not her description of the surrounding circumstances, but her description of the event. The jury was plainly prepared to accept her account.
123 As I have mentioned, it is not necessary to dissect every argument put on behalf of the appellant. All were put to the jury. Obviously, all were rejected.
124 I am satisfied, on the evidence, that it was open to the jury to reach the verdicts it did. To the extent that it is relevant, I would also be satisfied beyond reasonable doubt, on the evidence, that the appellant committed each of the offences charged. I would dismiss the appeal against conviction.