The words of s. 8(3) are not unambiguous, and provide no sure answer to the question whether "the punishment" means the penalty that may be inflicted, that is, the maximum punishment, or the penalty that must be inflicted, that is, the only punishment. It is not without significance that s. 8(3) departs from the forms that have been used by legislatures in Australia and the United Kingdom in those cases, nowadays rare, where it is intended to provide a fixed and irreducible penalty of life imprisonment. Some statutes, for example, provide that a person convicted of murder, "shall be sentenced to imprisonment for life" (The Murder (Abolition of the Death Penalty) Act 1965 UK, s. 1) or "shall be sentenced to imprisonment for the term of his natural life" (Criminal Code Tas, s. 158) or "shall be imprisoned for life" (Criminal Law Consolidation Act 1935 SA, as amended, s. 11). Words in that form make the intention of the legislature clear beyond any doubt. Some other statutes provide that a person convicted of murder is "liable" to imprisonment (or penal servitude) for life: see Criminal Code Q, s. 305, Criminal Code WA, s. 282(b), Crimes Act 1900 NSW, as amended, s. 19 and Crimes Act 1958 Vic, as amended, s. 3. The expression "liable to imprisonment for life" is itself not free from ambiguity, and may suggest that there is a discretion as to whether the punishment should be imposed [1] . However, the statutes mentioned contain other provisions which assist in resolving any ambiguities to which the use of the word "liable" may give rise. The Criminal Code Q, by s. 19, the Criminal Code WA, by s. 19, and the Crimes Act NSW, by s. 442, provide that a person liable to imprisonment (or penal servitude) for life may be sentenced to imprisonment (or penal servitude) for a lesser period, but the provisions of those sections are expressly declared to be inapplicable in the case of murder. The Crimes Act Vic uses the expression "shall be liable to imprisonment for a term of not more than years" when it intends to fix a maximum rather than a mandatory sentence. In all these instances, the legislature has made it clear when it intends that it should be mandatory to impose a life sentence. In s. 24 of the Crimes Act 1914 Cth, as amended, by the Death Penalty Abolition Act 1973 Cth, it is provided that a person guilty of treason shall be liable to the penalty of imprisonment for life, and when in other sections it is intended to provide a maximum penalty the device suggested by s. 41 of the Acts Interpretation Act is employed. We are not now concerned to consider the effect of s. 24. What is relevant for present purposes is that the expression used in the Act - "the punishment is imprisonment for life" - is not one that has been used in other statutes when it has been intended to provide for a mandatory sentence of life imprisonment.