"AMIDZIC, MS: Your Honour, the only query I would have: know this wasn't addressed in the submissions earlier, but it would be in relation to the partial rather than whole concurrency as between the two counts, the two counts both having arisen not only at the same time, but in the course of the same factual circumstances one could hardly imagine a situation where the sameness of the circumstances was closer in terms of the location of the items and probably the opportunity for contact to have been made - - -
FENBURY DCJ: I think, as I think I have explained, that looking at the total, it's worthy of about six and so you get there by five and partly concurrent four and the net effect is the same, but the sentence for each one is therefore appropriate.
AMIDZIC, MS: I think what I'm more addressing my comments to is the fact that your Honour is making 2 partly concurrent on 1, whereas in my submission there is basis in this case for it to be wholly concurrent because of the circumstances and then that would not violate the end result with respect to either sentence or the totality, and when one takes - - -
FENBURY DCJ: That is another way of doing it; judges sometimes do that and what I'm saying to you is that if that was the view I had of it, then one would be six and one would be concurrent, but for statistical reasons I'm obliged to impose the sentences for each offence discretely and then, keeping an eye on the total effect of it, if appropriate, order one to be partly concurrent.
AMIDZIC, MS: No. I appreciate that, your Honour. I suppose what I'm suggesting is that a view that six is appropriate globally may not be the apt way to look at it; that it may be preferable to look at the two counts in isolation, neither of which, in my submission, would in and of itself warrant a six end point.
So if on count 1, five is considered appropriate and on count 2, four is considered appropriate, one then looks at concurrency and totality separately and in this case, in my submission, there ought be whole concurrency rather than partial concurrency so that there is no need to take a global look in terms of what the result should be, but rather taking it count by count and then taking into account concurrency and totality.
FENBURY DCJ: Thank you. I hear what you say. Do you wish to say anything about that, Mr Hollingsworth?
HOLLINGSWORTH, MR: No, your Honour.
FENBURY DCJ: This issue wasn't covered previously, as you have said, but even if it had I think that my approach is the proper approach. If I'm wrong, you know what to do. I don't propose to change it as a result of what you - - -
AMIDZIC, MS: May it please you.
FENBURY DCJ: - - - have told me, Ms Amidzic. Thank you. We will now adjourn."