Claim for interest
21Mr Royal made allegations of conversations in which interest was agreed with Mr El Ali in his affidavit dated 1 March 2010. Paragraphs 16, 24 and 50 of his affidavit are as follows:
"16. In November 2002 I had a discussion with the First Defendant in his office at South Hurstville along the following lines:
Nathan: "Suncorp are slow in advancing me progress payments on my development and I need $100,000 to keep the builders working until Christmas. I know it's a lot of money but we've worked together all this time, we're friends and you can trust me. I'm not going anywhere, I am good for it and there will be lots of money when the property is sold."
I said "Yes I do trust you but I'll have to speak to Judith. There should be no problem"
At the time I knew the first defendant was undertaking a duplex development. The first defendant then asked if we could call Judith immediately. He then rang Judith while the phone was on loudspeaker and said words to the effect:
Nathan: "Judith I need to borrow $100,000 to use in my development to keep the builders working".
Judith: "What's in it for us?"
Nathan: "I will pay you 3% above the EasyChoice standard home loan rate. Don't worry I have plenty of equity in my properties but I just have a short term problem while I'm waiting for progress payments. Trust me, I'll be able to pay you back.'
Judith: "Can you get some sort of contract drawn up between us?"
Nathan: "I will have my solicitor draw up an agreement which will protect all of us and record the loan and my liability for it."
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24. In late June 2003 I was asked to speak with the First Defendant in his office wherein he said to me words to the effect of:
Nathan: 'It's about the loan. I want to put a proposition to you and Judith. If you could invest $300,000 in my property developments I can guarantee you 3% above the EasyChoice loan rate."
I said: "Why do you need the money?"
Nathan replied: "Development financing is expensive and it would be cheaper for me to do it this way and cost effective for me to borrow the money from you rather than borrowing from the banks. You will get a better return on your money and I will give you a bonus after the properties have been sold. It's a win win situation. I get cheaper funds and you get a good return and a bonus.
I replied: "I will have to speak to Judith but I don't think there'll be a problem"
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50. On 15 June 2007 the First Defendant handed to Judith and I an agreement, copy of which is exhibited to this Affidavit and marked "PR1S". He said words to the effect of:-
Nathan said: "I have had this drawn up by my solicitor it acknowledges that I owe you both $957,000 by way of capital and interest which I will repay by 31 December 2007. I have all my properties up on the market at the moment and I will be able to pay you when they sell."
22Mr and Mrs Royal's submissions on this aspect of the matter are as follows:
"The defendant's contention is improbable and the plaintiffs' evidence ought be accepted for the following reasons:
The bulk of the advances to the defendant were funded by the plaintiffs from borrowings in their name from which they in turn incurred substantial interest liabilities (Peter Royal 23/12/2010 [40]-[45]; Judith Royal 23/12/2010 [75]-[77]).
The defendant was aware that the plaintiffs had borrowings (concessions made during by Mr Elali during cross examination 12/4/2011). He gives evidence of assisting Peter in regard to a refinance of them in mid 2003 (Elali 30/9/2010 [40]).
Mr Elali gives no evidence that he affirmatively believed that they were funding the advances from moneys on deposit or from cash reserves (concessions made during by Mr Elali during cross examination 12/4/2011).
Mr Elali could not have rationally believed that they were funding loans to him while at the same time had substantial moneys on deposit.
The plaintiffs give evidence of numerous conversations in which they referred to their loans and there is no reason to disbelieve them in regard to that evidence (Peter Royal 23/12/2010 [40]-[45]; Judith Royal 23/12/2010 [75]-[77]).
Judith Royal's email of 18 August 2009 describes the hardships on her and her family caused by the loans they had taken to fund the advances of Mr Elali (Judith Royal 23/12/2010 annexure JR3). None of Mr Elali's replies to that email suggested surprise that they were in that financial position.
Mr Elali's evidence emphasises the openness of the relationships in the Easy Choice office. It is implausible that he did not have an accurate knowledge of the financial position of the Royals. He does not assert that he lacked such knowledge and during cross-examination Mr Elali conceded that, at some point, he had such knowledge (12/4/2011).
23Mr El Ali's submissions went to whether or not there was an agreement to pay interest. The first was the obvious fact that if there had been an agreement to pay interest in November 2002, then the agreement was breached by January 2003. In an agreement made in July 2003, when another $300,000 was advanced, there was no reference to interest in that or any subsequent documents acknowledging a debt.
24Mr El Ali also raised the question of the credit of Mr and Mrs Royal in relation to this aspect and in particular their evidence in support of their argument concerning spread sheets that show the amount of interest accruing on the loan.
25Those credit issues were intertwined with the question of whether the transfer of the red Mercedes was a reduction of the loan or a gift.
26As an aside, it is interesting to note that if one looks at Schedule B to the plaintiffs' submissions, one sees small advances which were repaid shortly thereafter. Quite often they include an extra amount, which may have represented the payment of interest.
27An example of this can be seen on 6 February 2004, when $8,100 was advanced and repaid on 17 February 2004 in the sum of $8,200. Another example is seen on 30 April 2004, when $7,000 was advanced and repaid on 4 May 2004 in the sum of $7,150. On 13 and 15 October a total of $31,000 was advanced and on 11 November 2004, which was repaid in the sum of $31,500.
28So far as the Mercedes is concerned, there were discussions between Mr El Ali and Mr and Mrs Royal about buying an A-Class Mercedes. However, the Royals did not take up the offer. Another C-Class Mercedes was discussed and referred to as the "red Mercedes". The documents in respect of the transfer are in evidence and it is apparent that Mr Royal, who claimed it was transferred to him as a bonus, had not included the Mercedes in his income tax for the relevant years.
29A document of Mr Royal's was also in evidence (court book 676), which lists payments between Mr and Mrs Royal and Mr El Ali. The second to last entry is November 05 and against this entry is:
"See Nathan re car how much?"
30The failure to declare the bonus as income, together with the notation in Mr Royal's document, plainly suggests that the car was being transferred to reduce the loan account.
31Questions of credit which were said to arise out of the agreement to pay interest are those referable to paragraphs 32 and 33 in Mr Royal's affidavit dated 23 December 2010, which are as follows:
"32. At paragraph 33 of my first affidavit I have said that Nathan showed us the NE Spreadsheet on his computer in about November 2003 in the context of discussing the loan referred to as the Fifth Loan. He also did this in the context of this discussion in November 2002.
33. I recall clearly that the principal amount inserted into the NE Spreadsheet was $120,000. I recall this because I was happy that Nathan had included the additional $20,000 that he owed us and had not omitted it. The principal sum of $120,000 was shown on the NE Spreadsheet as accruing interest calculated daily at a rate of 3% above the EasyChoice home loan rate. Even though the $100,000 was to be drawn from my line of credit facility with Suncorp Bank, Nathan offered to pay interest at the rate of 3% above the EasyChoice rate, which was in excess of the Suncorp Bank rate."
32Mr Royal conceded that the EasyChoice rate was less than the Suncorp rate. Mr Royal explained this by stating he had written it the wrong way around. I think it is appropriate to accept that what Mr Royal was saying was that the EasyChoice rate, plus 3 per cent, was in excess of the Suncorp rate. Notwithstanding the bad use of grammar, I would not think it was something that should reflect on Mr Royal's credit.
33The other point made was the reference in the third sentence of paragraph 33 to the interest rate, where it was described as being "at a rate of 3 per cent above the EasyChoice home loan rate". It was said that one would have thought that, perhaps, the actual figure such as 9.25 per cent would have been referred to. However, as Mr Royal was looking at a screen with no doubt a number being presented to him as the interest rate, probably there is a conclusion drawn in this sentence based either on what he knew himself or what he was told.
34The next matter concerns Mrs Royal and the $100,000 that was first advanced. Mrs Royal gave the following evidence in paragraph 23 of her affidavit dated 23 December 2010, which followed a telephone conversation in November 2002 with Mr Royal, while Mr El Ali was present.
"23. During the same week I met with both Nathan and Peter at the EasyChoice office at Connells Point Road. It was not a long meeting. When I arrived Nathan had already prepared a spreadsheet on his screen. I know this because during the course of the meeting Nathan showed this to Peter and I. This spreadsheet set out Nathan's calculations of the interest that would accrue on the principal sum (the NE Spreadsheet)."
35In about late June 2003, when the loan of $300,000 was discussed Mrs Royal gave the evidence of the following conversation:
"44. During that week I then took an afternoon off work and met with Peter and Nathan at EasyChoice's office at King George Road. When I arrived only Peter and Nathan where at the office. The other staff member had left to go home early. Nathan and I then had a conversation to the following effect:
NE: "Hello, how are you? You look well. How's the family? Thanks for coming in... Come into my office. Judith, I gather Peter has explained it all to you and the benefits?"
JR: "Sort of. Can you please take me through it again?"
NE: "As you know, I have many developments on the go and I need to raise some capital and we could help each other."
JR: "How?"
NE: "I could borrow funds from you and you would earn 3% above what you are paying. It is only a short term investment and will be repaid by October 2003."
JR: "Nathan, you still have not forwarded the spreadsheet that you said you would from our last meeting."
45. At this point in the conversation Nathan quickly turned his computer screen around so that Peter and I could see what was on it. The NE Spreadsheet was again displayed on his screen and set out the funds that we had previously loaned to Nathan as well as the daily compounding interest at 3% above the EasyChoice home loan rate which at that time was 6%. While we spoke, Nathan emailed to my work email address the NE Spreadsheet. I am now unable to obtain a copy of this email or the attachment to it.
46. After receiving the NE Spreadsheet, from this point in time I kept a record of the payments made and money received from Nathan in a spreadsheet of my own (the JR Spreadsheet) that I created based on the NE Spreadsheet. In the JR Spreadsheet I recorded all repayments made by Nathan electronically, including the 4 repayments I refer to at paragraph 54 herein. A copy of the JR Spreadsheet in the form that I created it in about June 2003 (but updated to the date of swearing this affidavit) is annexed to this affidavit and marked JR1.
47. After Nathan had emailed me the NE Spreadsheet, he and I had a conversation in words to the following effect:
JR: I like the spreadsheet however I would like to add an extra column so I can understand the Debit and Credit and changing interest rates."
NE: "Judith, I will keep mine, which is also kept with my solicitor, and you can amend yours."
36According to Mrs Royal, the attachment of the spreadsheet to the agreement was the explanation for the agreements they signed with Mr El Ali, which included interest. Mr and Mrs Royal advanced another $20,000 on 9 October 2003 to a Mr and Mrs Djordjevic, where the same type of document was signed. However, that document showed repayment of $22,000 due on expiry, which obviously included another $2,000 for interest.
37None of the documents signed between Mr and Mrs Royal and Mr El Ali showed an additional amount for interest in this way.
38Although Mrs Royal could not locate the original spreadsheets sent to her, she gave evidence of some alterations she had made. The spreadsheet starts in December 2002 and records matters after that date. It has provision for interest at varying rates starting initially at 9 per cent, 9.2 per cent in November 2003 and 9.54 per cent in December 2003. This accords with her affidavit evidence at paragraph 45.
39Mrs Royal did not seem to me to be a person who would recreate for the purpose of this litigation a spreadsheet all the way back to December 2002 in order to support her story. It has a ring of truth about it. It is to be remembered that the agreements that were signed were not prepared or signed with legal advice on the part of Mr and Mrs Royal.
40As I have mentioned, Mr El Ali rejected the conversations and any suggestion that there was ever an agreement for payment of interest. He relied on the various documents that were signed by Mr and Mrs Royal. It is also apparent that Mr El Ali's case was that the advances were made for the purpose giving the Royals an opportunity to join in developments that he would offer them from time to time. As I have said, none of these developments eventuated. However, his claim was that the monies were advanced without interest, merely for the opportunity to invest in a good development project if there was one that appealed to them.
41It is clear that, from time to time, Mr and Mrs Royal considered such projects when Mr El Ali advanced them.
42However, it has to be noted that when one considers Mr El Ali's requests for funds it was always to meet some obligation or for some specific development project, without it actually being advanced for the purpose of the Royals investing in a development.
43The money advanced by the Royals came from a mortgage they had on their home, as well as a draw down against a share portfolio managed by Mrs Royal. The advance of funds from those sources meant that the Royals were paying interest on the moneys they advanced to Mr El Ali.
44Given Mr El Ali's involvement in refinancing by Mr and Mrs Royal, it seems clear that Mr El Ali must have been aware the advances were funded from borrowings in their names.
45Having regard to the relationship between the parties, it seems unlikely to me that the advanced funds would not incur interest.
46I am satisfied that there was an agreement for Mr El Ali to pay interest, as alleged by Mr and Mrs Royal.
47Insofar as the red Mercedes is concerned, it is unlikely that Mr El Ali gave the car to Mr Royal as a bonus. The documentary evidence suggests that there was to be a reduction in the borrowings by crediting the value of the car. In these circumstances, I accept Mr El Ali's contentions in this regard.