Ground 1 - Separate trials
24The appellant and the mother were jointly charged with a number of the offences. In the ordinary course one would not expect them to be tried separately: R v Demirok [1976] VR 244 at 254; Demirok v R [1977] HCA 21; 137 CLR 20; and see generally R v Fernando [1999] NSWCCA 66 at [199]-[212]. The danger that may exist is by the admission of evidence against one only of the accused. This risk is to be obviated by express and careful directions as to the use of evidence: R v Harbach (1973) 6 SASR 427 at 433. There is a public interest in the avoidance of the risk of inconsistent verdicts, of inconvenience to witnesses, and in ensuring finality is reached as expeditiously as possible by having one trial. The interests of justice in this respect are not limited to those of the accused: Demirok; Webb and Hay v R [1994] HCA 30; 181 CLR 41 at 89.
25In R v Baartman (NSW Court of Criminal Appeal, Gleeson CJ, Powell JA and Smart J, 6 October 1994, unreported), the Chief Justice accepted as stating the relevant principles what Hunt J had said in R v Middis (Supreme Court of NSW, 27 March 1991, unreported):
"1.Where the evidence against an applicant for a separate trial is significantly weaker than and different to that admissible against another or the other accused to be jointly tried with him; and
2.where the evidence against those other accused contains material highly prejudicial to the applicant although not admissible against him; and
3.where there is a real risk that the weaker Crown case against the applicant will be made immeasurably stronger by reason of the prejudicial material,
a separate trial will usually be ordered in relation to the charges against the applicant. The applicant must show that positive injustice would be caused to him in a joint trial."
26There is a balance to be struck between the public interest and any prejudice to the accused, relevant to which assessment is whether there is positive injustice to the accused: R v Dellapatrona (1993) 31 NSWLR 123 at 133.
27The application made before Black DCJ prior to the commencement of the trial before him was that there should be separate trials because of prejudicial evidence that was admissible against the mother but not against the appellant. That evidence was in the form of telephone intercepts and listening device records made in 2007.
28Some time had been taken in investigating the allegations and finding the appellant. The complainant had not lived with her mother for over a year when she spoke to the complainant in telephone calls and a meeting that were (obviously without the knowledge of the mother) recorded.
29At the appeal, counsel for the appellant relied specifically upon parts of the transcript. I will go beyond what counsel relied on in these reasons.
30Exhibit S was a transcript of a telephone intercept on 5 April 2007. It contained the following:
"MOTHER:(Telephone ringing) Hello.
COMPLAINANT:Hello, mum.
MOTHER:Is that you [complainant's name]?
COMPLAINANT:Yeah.
MOTHER:[Complainant's name], are you all right?
COMPLAINANT:Yeah.
MOTHER:What's wrong.
COMPLAINANT:I love you.
MOTHER:I love you just so much. Where are you?
COMPLAINANT:At home.
MOTHER:What's up?
COMPLAINANT:I just wanted to call you.
MOTHER:Do you smoke?
COMPLAINANT:No.
MOTHER:Nothin'?
COMPLAINANT:No, no cigarettes, no pot, no way.
MOTHER:Are you sure?
COMPLAINANT:Yeah. Do you?
MOTHER:Yeah.
COMPLAINANT:Yeah.
MOTHER:That's all.
COMPLAINANT:No, no speed?
MOTHER:No.
COMPLAINANT:How long's it been?
MOTHER:Oh, I don't know. Since before you went.
COMPLAINANT:Since before I went?
MOTHER:Yeah.
COMPLAINANT:Mum?
MOTHER:What?
COMPLAINANT:What about Jamie?
MOTHER:Jamie, oh ---
COMPLAINANT:Yeah.
MOTHER:Oh, I don't, I haven't, no one.
COMPLAINANT:'Cause I, I get nightmares from him.
MOTHER:Well, you couldn't tell me about it.
COMPLAINANT:No, I, I, I don't ---
MOTHER:Not on the phone.
COMPLAINANT:OK. Sorry.
MOTHER:.... So, do you want to tell me on the phone?
COMPLAINANT:Yeah.
MOTHER:Go on then.
COMPLAINANT:I just don't ---
MOTHER:Are we alone?
COMPLAINANT:Yeah.
MOTHER:Are you sure?
COMPLAINANT:Yeah, mum, of course.
MOTHER:Well, we weren't last time when all hell broke loose.
COMPLAINANT:Mum, I wouldn't do it to you again, I love you.
MOTHER:OK. Talk then.
COMPLAINANT:I don't know, it's just making me feel sick sometimes and I get really sick from it. I don't like it.
MOTHER:Well, we have to talk about it when you're ready.
COMPLAINANT:Armidale really gets me.
MOTHER:What happened then?
COMPLAINANT:And the truck, when Jamie ---
MOTHER:What happened?
COMPLAINANT:When he tied you to the bed, and did whatever he wanted to me. Remember? In Armidale? I don't know. I don't know, it just made me feel like it was a threesome.
MOTHER:Well, it wasn't.
COMPLAINANT:It wasn't? I love you, mum.
MOTHER:I love you too, [complainant's name]."
31Exhibit T was a transcript of a telephone intercept on 8 April 2007. It included the following:
"MOTHER:How you goin'?
COMPLAINANT:Good, how are you?
MOTHER:Good.
COMPLAINANT:What you doin'?
MOTHER:Playing scrabble.
COMPLAINANT:Cool, do you want to talk to me?
MOTHER:Yeah, I'm right to stop.
COMPLAINANT:Yeah?
MOTHER:Yep.
COMPLAINANT:Happy Easter.
MOTHER:You too.
MOTHER:I, I, I was thinking you and me should go to some sessions together and see what issue's there.
COMPLAINANT:Yeah.
MOTHER:Do you want to?
COMPLAINANT:Yeah, 'cause you know, every time I see a Lindsay Brothers truck I just, I just loose it, I freak, I shake.
MOTHER:Like can we talk about it in person first?
COMPLAINANT:Yep, yep.
MOTHER:All right.
COMPLAINANT:I love you mum.
MOTHER:I love you."
32Exhibit W is a transcript of a telephone intercept on 18 April 2007. It included the following:
"COMPLAINANT:Mum, I've been trying to call you for ages.
MOTHER:I know. What's goin' on? What's happened to my phone?
COMPLAINANT:Your phone's been off for like all last night, all today.
MOTHER:No, you must've rang when someone was on it.
MOTHER:All right, listen, um, I've been to my psychiatrist today and I got um, phone numbers and that for counsellors down there that do it with mother and daughter things, it's for victims of crime.
COMPLAINANT:Victims of crime, what do you mean?
MOTHER:Um, victims um, it's a psychiatrist ---
COMPLAINANT:Am I a victim of crime?
MOTHER:No, well I am, and, and you are, have been around me when I was doing crimes and that, you know what I mean?
COMPLAINANT:What kind of crimes, mum?
MOTHER:You know crimes, [complainant's name], you know what I mean, like I was just ---
COMPLAINANT:Naughty.
MOTHER:--- taking drugs.
COMPLAINANT:Yeah.
MOTHER:Yeah, naughty and all that, wasn't I?
COMPLAINANT:Yep.
MOTHER:And it involved my whole family, didn't it?
COMPLAINANT:Yep.
MOTHER:And now you're ---
COMPLAINANT:I need counselling, mum.
MOTHER:I was just going to say, and now you need counselling, so ---
COMPLAINANT:I need it heaps bad.
MOTHER:Are you listening?
COMPLAINANT:Yeah.
MOTHER:So this lady, her name's Cheryl McCombie in Coffs Harbour, she specialises in ---
COMPLAINANT:Cheryl McCombie?
MOTHER:Yeah, she specialises in what we both need to do together for counselling.
COMPLAINANT:Oh ...
MOTHER:Anyway ---
COMPLAINANT:And um, I need counselling about Jamie.
MOTHER:Yeah, but she does that as well.
COMPLAINANT:Because I was only 13 and it's really screwing with my head.
MOTHER:Yep. OK. I'd rather talk to you in person about it.
COMPLAINANT:Yep. I will."
33Exhibit U was a transcript of a meeting at McDonald's on 23 April 2007. It included the following:
"COMPLAINANT:Mum, I think I/we need counselling.
MOTHER:I know.
COMPLAINANT:Yeah ...
MOTHER:We've got to talk. I don't want to do it today 'cause I want to have a good day.
COMPLAINANT:Yeah, but ...
MOTHER:All I want to say is, right I don't remember very much right, and what I do remember is patchy and we need to talk about it, about your participation in it all as well, so we can get it all out ... for you a little bit. But when you said Armidale, I was ... Yamba, not Armidale. I don't know what the fuck happened in Armidale. I have no recollection and I reckon he drugged me.
COMPLAINANT:Well, he drugged me (emphasis) Mum, as well.
MOTHER:He drugged me because I don't have any recollection of Armidale whatsoever.
COMPLAINANT:I dunno, I just, I dunno. I really don't like it.
MOTHER:Well, we'll fix that. We're booked in -
COMPLAINANT:Do you reckon if I went to the police about it, you'd help me, or not?
MOTHER:I think we should get counselling first before you do that, do you?
COMPLAINANT:Yeah.
MOTHER:And I need to know what happened, everything before we go to counselling.
COMPLAINANT:But would you help me with it?
MOTHER:Yeah. I'll help you. All right.
COMPLAINANT:And with the police (pause) 'cause it makes me so sick.
MOTHER:... I will ... talk about it, cry about it, everything. All right?
COMPLAINANT:Yeah.
MOTHER:I can't go to counselling or I can't go to the police until I know what I've done.
...
MOTHER:I don't want to, I haven't been able to even looked at a little kid in the face without thinking their mother is gonna be thinking ... paedophile and no one knows what happened or ... AVO shit, no one knows about that, but I can't even look at a kid ... think that everyone thinks I'm some paedophile. I don't want to cry. We'll get over this, all right. We'll get over this.
COMPLAINANT:Yeah.
MOTHER:We'll get over it. I'm really, really, really sorry for any ...
COMPLAINANT:It's all right, it's all right. We'll get through it, we always do.
MOTHER:You think we've got problems ...
COMPLAINANT:We do have problems.
MOTHER:Not like that.
COMPLAINANT:Mum, you have to remember everything ... Can you try?
MOTHER:I have for 12 months.
COMPLAINANT:What about the truck? Remember that, from Sydney to Newcastle, back to Sydney.
MOTHER:With Scott?
COMPLAINANT:No with Jamie. That was so bad.
MOTHER:What happened?
COMPLAINANT:For 4 hours.
MOTHER:Hey?
COMPLAINANT:For 4 hours I was in that truck.
MOTHER:By yourself?
COMPLAINANT: Yeah, that's ... that's when we were with Scott.
...
MOTHER:Yeah, that's what I said. Well, you got in the truck.
COMPLAINANT:I didn't want to.
MOTHER:But you begged me.
COMPLAINANT:I did not Mum.
MOTHER:You did. I didn't want you to go.
COMPLAINANT:...
MOTHER:Scott was saying 'no' to me ...
COMPLAINANT:And he's going ...
MOTHER:I am sick too Jamie. Yeah but like I was saying no and so was Scott. Scott abused the fuck out of me.
COMPLAINANT:I didn't want to go Mum . (pause) What about in Yamba, when he came over to our house and then the next morning you went to church ... (whispering) ... sex with me ...
MOTHER:While I was gone?
COMPLAINANT:Yeah.
MOTHER:Why did you do that?
COMPLAINANT:I didn't Mum. I was saying no.
MOTHER:....
COMPLAINANT:I didn't. He raped me. I didn't want that.
MOTHER:I asked you -
COMPLAINANT:I know.
MOTHER:I couldn't do anything when you tell me lies..."
34Exhibit V was a transcript of a telephone intercept also on 23 April 2007. It included the following:
"COMPLAINANT:Hi. It was good to see you today, but I don't know, I just, you know how you kept saying you didn't remember?
MOTHER:Said what
COMPLAINANT:How you didn't remember?
MOTHER:Yeah.
COMPLAINANT:Mum, you have to remember, come seriously I remember and it's really eating me up. I just, I don't know, I'm cranky about it, it's just annoying me.
MOTHER:There are things I remember.
COMPLAINANT:Like what, what do you remember?
MOTHER:(No audible reply)
COMPLAINANT:Do you remember when he tied you down to the bed and then he blinded folded ya and he was like licking you out and then he licked me out?
MOTHER:No.
...
MOTHER:No, [complainant's name], I have nightmares every day, every day, every night, and I imagine all these things that may have been going on then. You know what I mean? Awful things and then I don't know what's reality and I don't know what's fucking not reality. I see monsters in my dreams and you and me in my dreams. I don't know what's real and what's not. I'm, you know that I'm not well that way. You know, like, I've been through too much like you [complainant's name], more 'cause I'm an adult, so I've fuckin' seen more, I need the counselling ...
COMPLAINANT:What about the vibrators mum, do you remember that?
MOTHER:Do you remember me saying, no?
COMPLAINANT:No, mum, I don't.
MOTHER:You don't remember me saying no, no, no, it isn't right, you don't remember me saying that?
COMPLAINANT:No.
MOTHER:So you've blanked things out too?
COMPLAINANT:Mum, I haven't blanked anything out. I have nightmares all the time.
MOTHER:I know you have nightmares, [complainant's name], I have nightmares too. Is this a lead up to you going to the police, is that what it's all about?
COMPLAINANT:No, I'm not going to the police, I just want to know how you feel about it, because I don't feel right about it.
Mum, I'm so confused and cranky, I just, I don't know, I just want to know, mum, you make me get in that truck.
MOTHER:I did not.
COMPLAINANT:You did, mum.
MOTHER:I did not [complainant's name]. This is where you're getting things wrong.
COMPLAINANT:I'm not wrong, mum.
MOTHER:I don't know what you want me to say to you, [complainant's name].
COMPLAINANT:Are you sorry?
MOTHER:Fucking sorry, I'm sorry I even left fucking home, I'm sorry I fucked up your head, I'm sorry I fucked up Hugh's head, I've got to live with it all my life. Don't you think I'm a nice enough person to be crucifying myself mentally over everything that's happened, eh, [complainant's name]?
COMPLAINANT:I know you are mum, but like ---
...
COMPLAINANT:Mum, all I remember it was like they were threesomes.
MOTHER:Well, I don't see it like that. I told you today, like, I find it hard to even go near any children, because of that fucking AVO shit. Can't you know, I work, I've been working as a cleaner or in a kitchen, where I don't have to see people."
35There is no clear admission by the mother in the above evidence; what it lacks, however, is a clear denial of the events taking place, other than making the complainant go in the truck with the appellant.
36The reasons given by Black DCJ for not separating the trial were as follows:
"The overall background is that both accused face allegations of sexual impropriety, to put it as neutrally as I can, made by the complainant. There is some medical evidence, not, of course, implicating either of the accused but consistent with something having happened to the private parts of the complainant at the relevant time. There is general surrounding evidence indicating a relationship, I am told, I have not gone into the strength of it, between the two accused. What is said by Mr O'Connor [counsel for Mr Ross] is that, in particular, there are apparent concessions by the accused [mother] that she needs counselling treatment as a result of sexual activities including her daughter, the complainant. There is, further, an assertion in the listening device transcript by [the mother] that drugs had been administered to her by the accused James John Ross. That is the height of it. Mr O'Connor says that there is going to be an inference drawn that the complainant's account of sexual impropriety involving at least her mother and, of course, on the complainant's account, the accused James John Ross, is therefore going to be supported improperly against James John Ross, is therefore going to be supported improperly against James John Ross by these remarks by the mother in the listening device transcript. He further went on to say, although not expressly this afternoon, that it may be that there is a cut throat defence here and that is capable of giving rise to injustice between the two accused.
I fail to see anything particularly unusual about the matters that I have had drawn to my attention. I do not see that ordinary directions would be incapable of dealing with the admissibility of evidence as far as each of the accused is concerned. I have had sufficient time to form a view about the calibre of juries in this area and, in my view, they are conscientious and very careful to listen to legal directions and, in my experience, to act in accordance with them so far as I can tell. This is not as a result of any private questioning of jurors, it is my observance of the cases conducted in this court and the way the juries appear to approach them and their general manner and the questions they asked. I see no problem at all in juries understanding the relevance of evidence in relation to each separate accused and I see no reason to think that the particular matters complained of here would make it in any way impossible or improbable for them to carry out observance of directions to treat each accused separately and the admissibility of evidence separately. Accordingly I am, to put it either way, in my view, I am satisfied that a joint trial would not cause positive injustice to Mr Ross with great respect to the matters argued by Mr O'Connor and, therefore, the application is refused."
37As I have indicated above at [9], the question of a separate trial for the appellant was not canvassed before Woods DCJ at the second trial of this matter, which is the relevant trial for this appeal. I do not think that Black DCJ's discretion miscarried. He took into account all relevant considerations. At the second trial, Woods DCJ gave clear directions as to the use of the material: that it could not be employed against the appellant. No complaint was made about those directions.
38Nevertheless, the matter before this Court was argued on the basis of the entitlement of this Court to interfere if persuaded that the conduct of the trial constituted a miscarriage of justice: R v Demirok [1976] VR 244 at 251.
39The mother was examined in chief and cross-examined at some length about all these conversations. She had some explanation for all potentially damaging aspects of the conversations. That said, her explanations were, on their face, less than compelling. It can be inferred that the jury thought this by its findings of guilt.
40As I have already said, the whole of the mother's evidence, and not merely the records of these conversations, was not admitted against the appellant. No complaint was made about the joint trial, however, other than by reference to the evidence of the taped conversations.
41The case against both the mother and the appellant was fundamentally the recorded testimony of the complainant. An examination of the evidence of the appellant given at the first trial and tendered against him at the second trial reveals a body of evidence that is far from impressive. One example will suffice. He admitted dropping in at the house at Tilbuster, but only to deliver basic supplies of cigarettes, milk, biscuits, etc. He said he stayed 20 minutes. Though in a sexual relationship with the mother at this time, he said he did not stay and have sex with her, because 20-30 minutes was not long enough even to have a "quickie". A perusal of his answers in cross-examination reveals a less than impressive transcript. This evidence conflicted with the mother's, but her evidence was not admissible against him at the second trial. It conflicted profoundly with the complainant's, which was the basis of the conviction.
42The trial judge and the jury were faced with a difficult task, given how the trial had come about. The starting point is to recognise that the trial judge gave the clearest possible directions, both in writing and orally, about the necessity to decide the appellant's case without the evidence of the mother and exhibits S, T, U, V and W (being the records of conversations). No complaint was made about those directions. The operation of the criminal law requires the assumption that, as a general rule, juries follow directions: Gilbert v R [2000] HCA 15; 201 CLR 414.
43When one considers the whole of the evidence, in particular the detailed evidence of the complainant and of each of the appellant and the mother, including the cross-examination of each, there is the basis for a more than comfortable conclusion that it was plainly open to convict both, restricting oneself to the evidence against each in conformity with the trial judge's direction. There were significant parts of the evidence of both the mother and the appellant that are unimpressive. I have already mentioned the evidence about not staying at Tilbuster for longer than 20 minutes. The evidence the appellant gave about the four hour ride with the complainant was less than persuasive - that she was asleep for long periods and that he had a shower to remove heavy grease from his arm. Though not logically flawed, the answers in their context inspire no confidence in veracity.
44The appellant argued that there was irretrievable and unavoidable prejudice. I do not agree. A misuse of the evidence against the mother was possible. It should not be assumed that it occurred. It has not been demonstrated to have occurred.
45I am not persuaded of any miscarriage of justice on this ground.