12 Under s 34(11) no evidence of anything said at the s 34 conference can be referred to in this hearing unless there is agreement to do so by both parties under s 34(12). There was no such agreement in this case. I make no criticism of either party in that regard. The result is, however, that neither party can make submissions supported by evidence of what occurred at the s 34 conference to advance their respective cases. Without that evidence the determination of costs occurs in a partial vacuum.
13 The Applicant submits there has been a failure by the Council to conciliate in good faith as s 34(1) requires. In relation to what is required of the parties in a conciliation, I have been referred to a useful passage of a paper delivered to the ACDC Training Program by Preston J "Conciliation in the Land and Environment Court of NSW: History, Nature and Benefits" (3 August 2007, available on the Court website):
The parties are under an implied duty to negotiate in good faith. This involves more than mere attendance at the conference; it goes towards the conduct of the parties. The essential core content of an obligation to negotiation or conciliate in good faith involves, first, to undertake to subject oneself to the process of negotiation or conciliation and, secondly, to undertake in subjecting oneself to that process, to have an open mind in the sense of a willingness to consider such options for the resolution of the dispute as may be propounded by the other party or by the conciliator, as appropriate, and a willingness to give consideration to putting forward options for the resolution of the dispute. The parties must also be in a position to reach agreement
by having the necessary authority.
14 The "Note to Parties and Practitioners - Preliminary Conferences under s 34 of the Land and Environment Court Act 1979" published on the Court website under "Practice and Procedure" states that:
All parties must be prepared and have sufficient instructions and authority to engage in meaningful conciliation at the preliminary conference.
15 There is no basis not to accept the evidence of Mr Kondilios concerning his instructions from the Council. He identifies the detailed preparations of the Council for the s 34 conference and that this required the discussion of all relevant issues. He had authority to conciliate on two out of eight matters, albeit more minor in light of the issues in the proceedings, and says he was instructed to attend and be open to whatever matters the Applicant wished to raise. I am reluctant to find in light of Mr Kondilios' evidence that there was failure to conciliate in good faith on the Council's part. By virtue of the Council's preparation and instructions to Mr Kondilios I surmise the matters that it considered could be addressed at the conference were narrower than the Applicant intended in light of the letter of 20 November 2009 but that does not mean that there was a lack of good faith in the conciliation process on the Council's part.
16 The Council's experts did not attend the s 34 conference in person but were available by telephone if needed. Whether that is sufficient must depend on the particular circumstances. I would have expected that the attendance of experts in person (where available) to resolve issues was necessary in this matter if conciliation was to occur. That is generally a matter that would be discussed between the parties' solicitors in the course of preparing for a s 34 conference. The Applicant's claim is more accurately characterised as whether the Council's actions in not bringing any of its experts to the s 34 conference caused the Applicant to have costs thrown away at the s 34 conference so that the Applicant should have those costs paid under r 37(2). There is no mention in Mr Kondilios' evidence of the letter from the Applicant's solicitors dated 20 November 2009 identifying the specific matters that could be usefully discussed at the s 34 conference. That letter responded to a letter from the Council's solicitor asking that issues that could be discussed at the s 34 conference be identified. As no response was received to that letter the Applicant was entitled to believe these issues would be discussed at the s 34 conference.
17 My understanding is that where experts have already been engaged by the parties by the time a s 34 conference has been appointed, the usual approach is that they attend if there are issues relevant to their expertise, in the absence of agreement between parties that it is not necessary that they do so. In this case there was no specific mention of experts attending the s 34 conference in any letters from the Applicant's solicitor or the Council's solicitor or in other communication between the parties. The transcript of the mention before the Assistant Registrar on 13 November 2009 makes clear that the Applicant was intending to bring its experts to the s 34 conference and the Council was represented at the mention by its solicitor.