(b) The privilege in respect of self-incrimination and the provisions of s.128, Evidence Act
81 In relation to any additional or further evidence from Mr Ghandi Sobbi as to the possible falsity of his evidence in the Equity proceedings, Mr Menzies on his behalf sought the protection of a certificate pursuant to s.128 of the Evidence Act 1995.
82 The affidavit of Ghandi Sobbi sworn 26 May 2003 in the proceedings in Equity was tendered on behalf of the plaintiff in the present proceedings and it was admitted on 28 September 2009 without objection (Exhibit A).
83 The affidavit of Ghandi Sobbi sworn 4 October 2002 was also tendered (Exhibit B). Objection was taken to the tender of that affidavit. Mr Ashhurst indicated that the plaintiff wished to rely upon paragraphs 10, 13, 15, 16 of the affidavit as evidence in the nature of admissions by one or both of the defendants insofar as it went to the defendants' contention that a benefit flowed from the loan transaction. Paragraph 20 was also relied upon as evidence in the nature of an admission or as evidence of the relationship with Mr Masoud, the Sobbis' son-in-law. Those paragraphs were relevant in that respect, and accordingly, were admitted. The remaining paragraphs were only relied upon as providing the context of the loan transaction. Accordingly, I admitted those paragraphs on that limited basis.
84 The two affidavits, Exhibits A and B, were, accordingly, relevant to a fact in issue, namely, whether the Sobbis derived a benefit from the loan transaction and they were admitted into evidence in these proceedings on that basis. The contention of the defendants on this application is that the affidavits do not contain accurate evidence of the facts concerning the loan transaction due to the fact that certain matters concerning the transaction deposed to therein are false. That contention, as earlier noted, was one not raised as a ground of objection when the affidavits were tendered. They were, accordingly, admitted unopposed on the basis of that they were evidence of fact relevant to the purpose of the loan. In the context of the present application, the affidavit evidence on that matter is now said not to be evidence of the purpose of the loan.
85 The issue of adducing additional evidence to prove the falsity of earlier evidence raises the question of s.128 of the Evidence Act, and whether a certificate is available. That section is in the following terms:-
" 128 Privilege in respect of self-incrimination in other proceedings
(1) This section applies if a witness objects to giving particular evidence, or evidence on a particular matter, on the ground that the evidence may tend to prove that the witness:-
(a) has committed an offence against or arising under an Australian law or a law of a foreign country, or
(b) is liable to a civil penalty.
(2) The court must determine whether or not there are reasonable grounds for the objection.
(3) If the court determines that there are reasonable grounds for the objection, the court is to inform the witness:
(a) that the witness need not give the evidence unless required by the court to do so under subsection (4), and
(b) that the court will give a certificate under this section if:
(i) the witness willingly gives the evidence without being required to do so under subsection (4), or
(ii) the witness gives the evidence after being required to do so under subsection (4), and
(c) of the effect of such a certificate.
(4) The court may require the witness to give the evidence if the court is satisfied that:
(a) the evidence does not tend to prove that the witness has committed an offence against or arising under, or is liable to a civil penalty under, a law of a foreign country, and
(b) the interests of justice require that the witness give the evidence.
(5) If the witness either willingly gives the evidence without being required to do so under subsection (4), or gives it after being required to do so under that subsection, the court must cause the witness to be given a certificate under this section in respect of the evidence.
(6) The court is also to cause a witness to be given a certificate under this section if:
(a) the objection has been overruled, and
(b) after the evidence has been given, the court finds that there were reasonable grounds for the objection.
(7) In any proceeding in a NSW court or before any person or body authorised by a law of this State, or by consent of parties, to hear, receive and examine evidence:
(a) evidence given by a person in respect of which a certificate under this section has been given, and
(b) evidence of any information, document or thing obtained as a direct or indirect consequence of the person having given evidence,
cannot be used against the person. However, this does not apply to a criminal proceeding in respect of the falsity of the evidence.
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(8) Subsection (7) has effect despite any challenge, review, quashing or calling into question on any ground of the decision to give, or the validity of, the certificate concerned.
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(11) A reference in this section to doing an act includes a reference to failing to act."
86 For s.128 to apply, the witness, in this case, the first defendant and/or Alan Sobbo. must "object" to giving particular evidence. There is, as I will examine below, no consistent approach to the question as to whether s.128 operates where a witness objects to giving evidence in chief.
87 In Cornwell v The Queen (2007) 231 CLR 260, the accused declined to answer a question in examination-in-chief on the ground that it might incriminate him. The majority of the High Court questioned whether s.128 applied where a witness sets out to adduce evidence in chief revealing the commission of criminal offences. The High Court was concerned in this respect as to:-
" Whether witnesses who are eager to reveal some criminal conduct in chief, because it is thought the sting will be removed under sympathetic handling from their own counsel or for some other reason, are to be treated in the same way as witnesses who, after objection based on genuine reluctance, give evidence in cross-examination about some crime connected with the facts about which evidence is given in chief ." (at [111]).
88 It was not necessary for the High Court to finally decide this issue since the appeal was allowed on other grounds and there was no dispute between the parties on the question. In Uniform Evidence Law (8th ed), by S Odgers, at p.629, the learned author expressed the view that, on the analysis in Cornwell (supra), a majority of the court is likely to hold, if and when the question does fall for decision, that s.128 does not apply in such a situation.
89 A similar approach was taken in Meiko Australia Pacific Pty Limited v Adam Samuel Hinchliffe [2009] NSWSC 354. In that case, Einstein J granted a certificate under s.128 in respect of evidence given by the first defendant. Subsequently, the first defendant sought the certificate which had been granted to extend to all affidavit evidence of the first defendant in the proceedings. His Honour held that a retroactive application of s.128 was "unwieldy" and was not contemplated by the section (at [186]). Once evidence has been given, it cannot be said that the witness has been compelled. His Honour explained that as a consequence, "it appears that a certificate should extend only to questions to which objection might be taken, that is, to questions put in cross-examination" (at [188]).
90 In respect of the affidavits, his Honour found that the material was freely sworn, filed and read by the first defendant. Accordingly, his Honour said at [190]-[191]:-
" 190. All of the affidavits were read in the course of evidence in chief of the first defendant and so cannot be said to have in any way been the subject of an objection, implied or otherwise.
191. In Ross v Internet Wines Pty Ltd (2004) 60 NSWLR 436 at [104] the purpose of s.128 was identified as being to protect against self-incriminatory disclosures by compulsion. In the present proceedings, the first defendant was not compelled to read the affidavits. For this further reason, no certificate should be granted in respect of the first defendant's affidavit evidence . "
91 A different approach, however, has been taken in relation this aspect of s.128 in other cases. In Ferrall v Blyton; A-G (Cth) (Intervener) [2000] FCA 1442, a Family Court trial judge granted a certificate under s.128 to the husband during an application by the wife for property settlement and spousal maintenance. On the evidence given with the protection of the certificate, injunctions were granted. The evidence concerned a scheme devised by a third party to protect the husband from any order the Family Court might make against his assets. The third party concerned appealed to the Full Family Court on the basis that a certificate should not have been granted where the husband sought to give evidence and was not objecting to doing so.
92 The Full Family Court held that the trial judge was correct in granting the certificate for the following reasons:-
"[89] We think the trial judge was clearly correct in holding that it was within his discretion to grant such a certificate. First, we think it would be unrealistic to limit the availability of a certificate to a situation where a witness is asked a particular question in cross-examination. We think the availability of a certificate clearly applies to evidence given in chief, otherwise an inappropriate forensic advantage would rest with the other party who would be in a position to prevent the question of an objection arising by simply not seeking to cross-examine.
[90] In the particular circumstances of the Family Court of Australia, evidence-in-chief is normally given by affidavit. We think that in the circumstances of the present case, the witness was objecting, in the sense required by s.128, by indicating that he would not file the affidavit unless a certificate was given. We see the situation as no different from that which would have been the case if he had been sworn in and asked to answer questions concerning the matter in evidence-in-chief, and had objected to doing so without the issue of such a certificate."