IN THE SUPREME COURT
OF NEW SOUTH WALES
criminal DIVISION
McCLELLAN J
WEDNESDAY, 14 NOVEMBER 2001
70018/01 - REGINA v John Raymond MUNCE
Judgment: Voir Dire on admissibility of Record of Interview.
1 HIS HONOUR: The accused, John Raymond Munce, has been charged with the murder of Leslie Forrest. Mr Forrest died on 21 January 1971, after he fell down the steps of a companionway leading from the deck at the level of the recreation room to the deck at the level of the mess room on the merchant ship "Ngahere". The ship was berthed in Newcastle harbour.
2 Following a coronial inquiry, a finding of accidental death was brought in by the Coroner.
3 The "Ngahere" was a New Zealand vessel and many of its crew lived in New Zealand. The accused was a young seaman on the "Ngahere" at the time and continued as a seaman for some years after the incident. He has not been to sea for many years.
4 On 11 November 1999 the accused contacted police in Auckland and in a formal interview, by way of ERISP, admitted that he had kicked Forrest deliberately causing him to fall down the steps, where he died. However, he also made other statements and the ERISP contains both admissions from the accused that he caused or contributed to Forrest's fall as well as statements which contradict those admissions.
5 The Crown has now indicated that during the course of the trial it proposes to tender the ERISP conducted at the Auckland Central police station. Apart from some evidence of Mr Bidgood, who was a seaman on the ship, and a psychiatrist, Dr O'Dea, the ERISP will constitute the Crown case.
6 Mr Bidgood did not see the incident, but gave evidence of an earlier incident, which may provide a motive for the accused to have harmed the deceased. Dr O'Dea examined the accused and also considered the ERISP.
7 The admissibility of the ERISP has been considered on a voir dire examination. Because of the indication from defence counsel of the grounds of the objection, said to be sections 85, 90, 135(b) and (c) and 137 of the Evidence Act, but mindful of the remarks of Hunt CJ at CL in Charajit Singh-Bal (1997) 92 A Crim R, I allowed the voir dire to occur.
8 I have viewed the ERISP and heard evidence from Dr O'Dea. A report from Dr O'Dea and another forensic psychiatrist, Dr Bruce Westmore, retained by the accused, have been tendered.
9 It is plain that the accused has had, for many years, very serious health problems. He is now aged forty-seven and is unemployed. His father, who died approximately ten years ago was a heavy drinker, coming home drunk most days at 6 pm. His mother had difficulty with the stresses imposed and became intolerant and would "yell and scream and give verbal and physical abuse." His parents divorced and his mother turned to a religious faith.
10 The accused was a poorly behaved child and left school early to join the merchant navy at age fourteen, where he remained for ten years. After that he worked in Auckland in various capacities. He appears to have had at least two long term but difficult de facto relationships.
11 The accused has a long history of alcohol and drug abuse and dependence from his teenage years. On board ship he drank a carton of beer and a bottle of vodka on many days. He drank heavily after leaving the merchant navy, consuming alcohol continuously every day. He often drank methylated spirits in the morning to help him with his "shakes". He reported to Dr O'Dea that he had flashbacks and nightmares about the alleged offence and often drank to be rid of these symptoms.
12 The accused has undergone a number of treatments for his alcohol abuse. He has also regularly smoked cannabis since about age fifteen and for ten years since the night of the alleged offence, had regularly used LSD. He has also experimented with heroin, amphetamines, opium and cocaine.
13 The accused reported to Dr O'Dea that he began having stressful psychiatric symptoms about two or three months after the alleged offence. He said that he started to get "intrusive "flashbacks" and "nightmares" when asleep." He reported pictures in his mind of the deceased "lying at the bottom of the stairs with his brains hanging out and lots of blood around while I was standing at the top of the stairs looking down."
14 Dr O'Dea reported:
"He said that the 'nightmares' were dreams he had in his sleep of the deceased whereby images of the deceased would 'change into a snake charmer or pied piper with rats'. He said '[the deceased] became a martyr, a person who dominated my dreams'. He also said that the deceased 'used to come and see me and I would think he was there … I thought he had come to visit me at [The Anchor Hostel in Newcastle in June 2001]'. He told me that he had also occasionally had 'nightmares' regarding the alleged physical abuse he had endured as a child and alleged sexual abuse he had experienced onboard the merchant navy ships."
15 The accused has previously been diagnosed as alcohol dependent with depression and personality problems. Treatment has been attempted for these problems including a treatment of Eye Movement Desensitisation and Reprocessing for his "flashbacks." His problems have continued, although they have been alleviated by a significant medication regime.
16 Dr O'Dea reports that the accused's "flashbacks" began to occur two to three months after the death of Forrest. The accused told him that he "only began to imagine he had killed the deceased after experiencing the "flashbacks" and "nightmares". On the day of the incident the accused said he drank and took one "trip" of LSD. The accused told Dr O'Dea that he did not remember pushing the deceased down the stairs, but he did remember him "lying at the bottom of the stairs with people standing around him."
17 Again, he told Dr O'Dea:
"… that although he had worried for many years (as a result of the 'flashbacks' and 'nightmares') that he may have killed the deceased, he first confessed this belief to a fellow resident at Odyssey House in November 1999. He said that at the time he was on probation following conviction for DUI and Dangerous Driving. He said that he shared his story with the fellow resident who was telling him of his 'nightmares' and 'flashbacks' in relation to his experiences as a soldier in Northern Ireland. He said that the fellow resident disclosed their discussion to a staff member. Mr Munce told me that he thought that the staff member would tell the police.
He said that he left the program and that after a binge on alcohol, methylated spirits and cannabis for about 1 week, he contacted the police to 'confess to the murder'. I note his repeated reference to his feelings of guilt in relation to the death. He said that he attempted suicide by overdose of sleeping tablets on the night after the 'confession'.
He told me that with further psychiatric treatment since the 'confession' he had used less alcohol and other drugs and the intrusive 'flashbacks' and 'nightmares' had subsided. He told me that as a result of this he now did not believe that he pushed the deceased down the stairs."
18 Dr O'Dea expressed the following opinion:
"The 'flashbacks' and 'nightmares' Mr Munce has reported in relation to the alleged offences could be understood in a variety of ways. They may represent an accurate recollection of the events of the alleged offence. However, they may also represent a revised account of the alleged offence shaped by time and Mr Munce's substance use at the time of the alleged offence and subsequently. They may also represent a revised account of the alleged offence shaped by time and his emotional state at the time of the alleged offence and subsequently. They may also represent a revised account of the alleged offence shaped by time and his reaction to accounts of the alleged offence by others. The 'flashbacks' and 'nightmares' may also be a symptom of his apparently chronic depression and relate to this sense of guilt in general and in relation to the deceased.
It is speculative and difficult to identify which of the above approaches best helps with an understanding of the 'flashbacks' and 'nightmares' and it may be that they are a result of a combination of these possibilities.
Mr Munce appeared to have based his 'confession' more on the 'flashbacks' and 'nightmares' that began some months after the night of the alleged offence rather than on a clear recollection of events of the night of the alleged offence. His 'confession' appeared to have occurred at a time when he was having problems in his alcohol and other drug rehabilitation program including a 1 week 'binge' on alcohol and other drugs and ongoing problems with depression. His account of the alleged offence appeared vague and inconsistent with the account of witnesses giving evidence at the time of the death. In addition Mr Munce has significantly changed his view about the 'confession' and did not believe, at the time of our interviews, that he had in fact committed the alleged offence.
With this in mind I am not able to be confident of the reliability and accuracy of Mr Munce's accounts of events in relation to the alleged offence. In the absence of corroborative evidence it would be difficult to be sure of the historical accuracy of Mr Munce's accounts of the alleged offence."
19 Dr O'Dea drew attention, in his oral evidence, to the inconsistencies in the accused's memory of the events when reported at various times. An examination of the ERISP also reveals inconsistencies both as to the events which he recalls and the motivation for his actions. Dr O'Dea reports that before the interview the accused had drunk significant quantities of beer, had three joints of cannabis and taken Prozac. However, the officer conducting the interview says that he did not identify the accused as being under the influence of alcohol or any other drug.
20 The views of Dr O'Dea are generally shared by Dr Westmore, who concluded by saying this:
"This case differs from many other cases involving false confessions. In those cases an individual will make a false confession knowing or believing at the time they make the false confession that they are in fact not guilty of the offence to which they have confessed. This is certainly true for individuals not suffering overt mental illness such as psychotic disorders who make false confessions. In this particular case the history would suggest that this man may have genuinely held a belief about an event, that belief being untrue and to which he has subsequently, truthfully, that is to the best of his ability, confessed to. I do have concerns about the reliability of the record of interview; not about its truthfulness, but its accuracy."
21 As I indicated, counsel for the defence objects to the tender of the ERISP, having regard to a number of provisions of the Evidence Act. I shall consider each ground of the objection separately.